Vaccine hysteria, should you get vaccinated? Scientifically understand vaccines to help decision-making

[humus]

Claims that the spike proteins in the Covid vaccine are harmful are unproven
17 2021 June

WHAT HAS BEEN CLAIMED
The spike protein generated by a Covid-19 vaccine can leave the injection site and enter the bloodstream, potentially causing vaccine-related deaths and injuries.

OUR VERDICT
There is evidence that the spike proteins generated by the Moderna Covid-19 vaccine leave the injection site. There is also some evidence that the spike protein on the actual virus can damage cells that line blood vessels. However, the two different spike proteins behave very differently in the body, and therefore the hypothesis that the spike proteins generated by the vaccine could also damage cells in the bloodstream is unproven.

https://fullfact.org/online/conservativ ... e-protein/

[humus]

Dr. Robert Malone
Published on 08/07/2021 at 17:30 - Updated on 09/07/2021 at 13:08

Some time after the implementation of the vaccination in the general population, Malone is alerted by a Canadian doctor who tells him about the side effects he has seen in some of his patients and notes that the observations reported by the doctors have been scanned from 'a wave of the hand by the official authorities who censor the words of these caregivers. Upset by the large number of adverse effects reported to him, he decides to come out of the silence and writes an article on his bioethical considerations about these experimental vaccines based on the Nuremberg Code and the consensus in the West on the subject. to clinical research.

He also talks to vaccinated patients who have had serious adverse effects and who are happy to be able to find a man of science to listen while the whole of the scientific world who affirms that these vaccines are perfectly safe, remains deaf to their opinions. pains.

When he reviews the Pfizer document, Robert Malone is amazed and worried about what he is reading. He explains why he considers this work unprofessional when he discovers that the biodistribution studies are not in accordance with good laboratory practice since they did not use the RNA encoding Spike but rather a luciferase RNA. But this aspect is only one of the many dysfunctions to which he returns, providing detailed explanations on each of them.

On vaccine safety, he says it's not the vaccine technology that's the problem, but the native Spike protein that is toxic. It regrets that the benefit / risk ratio has not been calculated for each category of the population and requests proof and not opinions from the various regulatory bodies after having been informed of the various toxicities, particularly cardiac.

https://www.francesoir.fr/videos-les-debriefings/malone

[pedrodelavega]

I more so for the plurality of information but who is right?

The oil lobby is by far the most powerful in the world.
On the scale of the planet, climatologists represent a handful of scientists.
Only a few of us have a controversial opinion on global warming. The vast majority denounce the effects of greenhouse gases and the vast majority of all other scientists agree with them.
Not claiming to have the level of expertise necessary to know who is right, ... I join the consensus.

[humus]

I more so for the plurality of information but who is right?

The oil lobby is by far the most powerful in the world.
On the scale of the planet, climatologists represent a handful of scientists.
Only a few of us have a controversial opinion on global warming. The vast majority denounce the effects of greenhouse gases and the vast majority of all other scientists agree with them.
Not claiming to have the level of expertise necessary to know who is right, ... I join the consensus.

In the case of vaccines, the consensus is more like the oil lobby.
And then it's all too cool to know where the wind is turning.
Personally, for the moment, I remain cautious.
When the inactivated virus vaccine hits the market in Europe (there is already one in China), I would probably get vaccinated, so useful Valneva.

For now I would like to clarify whether genetic vaccines are time bombs or not.
And here too, it is still too early to have definite answers.

[pedrodelavega]

For now I would like to clarify whether genetic vaccines are time bombs or not.
And here too, it is still too early to have definite answers.

If this were true, while there is an alternative, don't you think the majority of doctors would say it rather than vaccinate themselves, vaccinate their loved ones and vaccinate their patients?

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

For now I would like to clarify whether genetic vaccines are time bombs or not.
And here too, it is still too early to have definite answers.

If this were true, while there is an alternative, don't you think the majority of doctors would say it rather than vaccinate themselves, vaccinate their loved ones and vaccinate their patients?

And how would it be if it's too early to have definite answers, Végaz? How do we do it without hindsight? (Besides, your real / false question, you'll excuse me, but it's more of an assertion that everything is fine, that it works wonderfully than anything else, eh. As usual, hypocrite in hell)

[Janic]

humus

When the inactivated virus vaccine hits the market in Europe (there is already one in China), I would probably get vaccinated, so useful

it would be like having you injected with salt water, that is to say without risk or interest, on the other hand all the manipulations and toxic adjuvants, them, you could not escape them!

pedroabcon

If this were true, while there is an alternative, don't you think the majority of doctors would say it rather than vaccinate themselves, vaccinate their loved ones and vaccinate their patients?

unfortunately, they are the doctors most conditioned by the vaccine system. But when they themselves are the victims as well as their families, there they start to think and ask themselves questions hitherto hidden. In addition, in case of refractory to the vaccine dogma, they are quickly called to order by BP via the order of doctors. It is enough to hear them now with this covid which is blessed bread for them ... plus a few billion of course!

[ENERC]

For now I would like to clarify whether genetic vaccines are time bombs or not.
And here too, it is still too early to have definite answers.

The product is only stable at -60 ° and at the temperature of the fridge its hours are counted . So at 37 °, it is quickly destroyed because it is unstable.
It does not have time to diffuse throughout the body. It therefore acts around the injection area.
The principle of these vaccines is to send a message before quickly disappearing.

I still don't get 5G - nor even 4G where I am - nor even 3G for that matter. So no 5G chips in this vaccine.

More seriously, it can become restrictive if you have to be bitten every 6 months. How painful it would be if you had to go for the tetanus booster every 6 months ...

[Obamot]

Claims that the spike proteins in the Covid vaccine are harmful are unproven
17 2021 June

WHAT HAS BEEN CLAIMED
The spike protein generated by a Covid-19 vaccine can leave the injection site and enter the bloodstream, potentially causing vaccine-related deaths and injuries.

OUR VERDICT
There is evidence that the spike proteins generated by the Moderna Covid-19 vaccine leave the injection site. There is also some evidence that the spike protein on the actual virus can damage cells that line blood vessels. However, the two different spike proteins behave very differently in the body, and therefore the hypothesis that the spike proteins generated by the vaccine could also damage cells in the bloodstream is unproven.

https://fullfact.org/online/conservativ ... e-protein/

1) First of all, I am wary as the plague of these “facts-checking” which never addressed the facts raised before they arose. Which is highly suspect, and this as long as we have not shed light on WHO (?) Is funding these websites! All the more so as the re-checks regularly prove a fraudulent approach on their part.

2) then, without being too mistaken, it is easy to answer this question, which has been done multiple times.It is undeniable that the spike protein generated via mRNA at the rate of almost 100 billion in the human body after 2) doses, produces side effects until death, since they have increased by 6% in one year (pharmacovigilance) and this peak must be multiplied by ten, since only one in ten cases is reported Therefore it is not possible to say which spike protein is the most dangerous, it depends on the subjects, in some it will be one and in others, the other.

3) It is also easy to tell whether or not the spike protein generated by the vaccine damages the vascular endothelium, the answer and yes it is scientifically proven. The question is: where? Here the answer is invariably the same, in the most fragile people and therefore the oldest!

It is therefore wrong to give in to the temptation to minimize the effect of this gene technology, which has been tested for the very first time, for a good and simple reason: there is nothing to confirm this until phase III is over. ! And finally, this gene technology itself potentially entails risks of errors, while absolutely no one is in a position to examine the nature of these errors or what their consequences would be.

What would happen, for example, if during contamination, another protein joins the “spike” and is involuntarily mass produced by the cells of the human body? No one can say it as it is, unless they have experienced it to the end!

[humus]

For now I would like to clarify whether genetic vaccines are time bombs or not.
And here too, it is still too early to have definite answers.

If this were true, while there is an alternative, don't you think the majority of doctors would say it rather than vaccinate themselves, vaccinate their loved ones and vaccinate their patients?

Absolutely not.
It's crazy what there are as people who trust the official word.
My neighbors are vaccinated and in good health, why question the official word?
All the provax arguments are correct, that is not the question. On the other hand, do they not sin by excess of pride or ignorance, have they seen everything, understood everything, mastered everything?

My attending physician does not have the time (or the inclination) to inform himself as I can and as many do here.
He doesn't have the luxury of doubting.
He trusts the official discourse and spreads the good word at leisure. It feels like watching TV.

Maybe the provax will be right, maybe we scare ourselves for nothing.
I would rather be afraid for nothing for a while, to make a mistake for a while, than to do the irremediable thing by injecting myself with a time bomb.

I am, so to speak, of Obamot's opinion above.