Food and hunger: the dead of junk food and malnutrition

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View dedeleco » 31/01/11, 16:48

You can metre...Looking for one may we can find many who contradict them ...


Some did not assimilate the statistical methods !!

There are more than 30 years, we came out this type of arguments like with tobacco, alcohol, asbestos, etc.
At the time no surgeon said that the healing of smokers was catastrophic !!
No doctor said that alcohol was dangerous and catastrophic on the fetus of an alcoholic woman !!
How many dead !!!!

It has been hard, bad faith, now we do not talk anymore.

It's the same with junk food, just walk on a street or a beach in the US and France, to see the difference, or compare with the movies and photos of 1945 years to 1955, to see that junk food creates eyes statistically, and much more to the north than to the south, in spite of rare special cases, even in France, !!!!

How many more deaths for the future !!!!
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View oiseautempete » 31/01/11, 16:49

Janic wrote:This conception has been largely nuanced and there is hardly any dietician (even official) to hold this kind of statement. On 20 essential amino acids, only 8 are not synthesizable (omnis or veg), but these 8 amino acids are found in all foods including vegetables
Moreover if this synthesis was impossible, I would be (plus my children and my grandchildren, who are very good thank you! And many non-meat consumers) long dead.
As for the dentition, it would be odd to go through the raw carnivorous box with adequate dentition, to a non-carnassial dentition on the pretext that these teeth would no longer have this use. Strange reasoning and evolution would be weird too. .


Obviously you have not correctly read or understood (or rather wanted to understand by vegetarian fanaticism) what I wrote, including the impossibility of making protein from plants that do not contain (something that only purely vegetarian animals can do) and complications of the concentration of vegetable proteins by techniques mainly of Asian origin (tofu and co) with plants from elsewhere from Europe, when evolution I suggest you to read the work of a certain Darwin who perfectly highlighted the adaptation of life to living conditions ...
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View dedeleco » 31/01/11, 16:57

Still a priori without references threaded like pearls, while the Japanese with their tofou and varied diet without excess of meat and dairy products, live longer than we, especially in Okinawa, before they adopt our western junk food !!
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View Obamot » 31/01/11, 18:13

A vegan who says that his food bowl suits him, is not more fanatical than a vegetarian, an omnivore .. or an eskimo!
... as long as everyone does not try to convince others of the soundness of his regime, which is necessarily the best .... for him, as long as he stays healthy !!! ^^

To each of us to make his experiments: the taste informs ... and as so rightly said Janic

Janic wrote:obamot
For the rest, one can very well digest the animal proteins by fermentation. It is very easy to test it yourself! It is basically seen in the consistency of stool ... Of course it is useless to consume meat more than once a week, and as you know, meat proteins can replace ... But obviously we live in a world "apart" and we must take care ... Because unfortunately not much is expected in society for "non-carnivores" ...

That's right (and luckily if not all the omnis would already be dead). It's the final balance that counts.
Living organisms, and mainly the mammal that we are, work according to this scheme: consumption, transformation, assimilation, disposal of waste.

So just know what comes in and "measure" what comes out (lol) to find out which eating habits are best for us! hehehe ...

By the way, who has already tried? Honestly, those who have an opinion on the issue have already examined their bowel movements, measured the acidity of their urine and had this gift package analyzed (lol) ... for how long? And what did you deduce from it ...? : Mrgreen:

Moreover, he admits that man can assimilate animal proteins by digestion by fermentation. And he is right to say that it was necessary to know someone on the subject, already by the simple fact that eating animal protein poses a real ethical problem!

So let's stop bickering on the subject and try to better understand the interest of one mode of feeding compared to the other ... if some were reading the links that are put, there are already many questions that would have found an answer ... ^^

Oiseautempete is relatively right, when it makes us understand that replacing animal proteins is complicated! This is a reality that vegans know and must not be ignored ... For poorly managed veganism pays more easily in situations of squares than an omnivorous diet, if only because society does not is not very (enough?) turned in this direction ...

On the other hand, treating those who have made a different lifestyle choice from "fanatics" is completely abusive. If only by the philosophical choice that imposes that deserves respect!
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View Janic » 31/01/11, 19:46

Obviously you have not correctly read or understood (or rather wanted to understand by vegetarian fanaticism) what I wrote, including the impossibility of making protein from plants that do not contain (something that only purely vegetarian animals can do) and complications of the concentration of vegetable proteins by techniques mainly of Asian origin (tofu and co) with plants from elsewhere from Europe, when evolution I suggest you to read the work of a certain Darwin who perfectly highlighted the adaptation of life to living conditions ...

The first part of what you say is accurate. Some foods do not contain protein such as acquiescent fruits (strawberry, apple, etc.) or oily fruits (avocado), others contain little protein (dry nuts such as nuts, almonds, cereals, etc.). .) other foods are very rich in protein (legumes: dry peas, dried beans, soya, etc ...) often more than meats.
On the other hand vegetarian animals can not do more than we make proteins when there is no nitrogenous matter in the food, on the other hand their food is poor in nitrogenous matter from where their permanent consumption of vegetables.
Darwin today is like the steam engine Denis Papin compared to a F1. He posed for reflection bases, more or less followed by current scientific in all life sciences.
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View dedeleco » 31/01/11, 19:52

Right now, on Arte-Global Mag, eat insects, locusts, etc., it's good for the planet, no pets like cows, no wasted water, no oil and cereals. !!!
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View Janic » 31/01/11, 20:04

Deleleco
Right now, on Arte-Global Mag, eat insects, locusts, etc., it's good for the planet, no pets like cows, no wasted water, no oil and cereals. !!!


At 100kg / year for 9 billions of human, that's a mega pack of locusts that should be fed with its plant equivalent and be careful that they do not escape into the wild.
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View Christophe » 31/01/11, 20:33

dedeleco wrote:Right now, on Arte-Global Mag, eat insects, locusts, etc., it's good for the planet, no pets like cows, no wasted water, no oil and cereals. !!!


Look, we're looking at the same channels ...

The number 2 kg grain = 1 kg cricket seems a little optimistic .... but in the growth phase AC seems possible.
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View jlt22 » 31/01/11, 21:34

Christopher said:
The number 2 kg grain = 1 kg cricket seems a little optimistic .... but in the growth phase AC seems possible.


It's even very optimistic, a cricket eats its weight a day.
Source:
http://locust.cirad.fr/tout_savoir/ethologie/etholo_2.html

Alas I do not find in how long they become adults.
There are breeders:
http://www.le-monde-des-reptiles.com/forum/viewsujet.php?f=19&t=110570&sid=1f20526535605723ce62f97f813132d5
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View Macro » 01/02/11, 08:52

dedeleco wrote:Still a priori without references threaded like pearls, while the Japanese with their tofou and varied diet without excess of meat and dairy products, live longer than we, especially in Okinawa, before they adopt our western junk food !!


http://www.lemonde.fr/ameriques/article ... 222.html#x

Two American women as deans of humanity ...
Drop the tofu go to the macdo
"The dean of the world died Monday, January 31 at her home in Texas at the age of 115, her entourage announced. Eunice Sanborn held the title of oldest woman in the world since the death on November 4, 2010, at the age of 114, of the French nun Eugénie Blanchard.

While an authoritative longevity organization for centenarians estimates that Eunice Sanborn was 114 years old, her family claims that the US Census Bureau incorrectly registered his birth as having occurred in 1896 and not in 1895. this was the case.

Eunice Sanborn celebrated her 115th birthday on July 20, according to her family. Besse Cooper, born August 26, 1896, is the new dean of humanity, according to the Gerontology Research group. She resides in the US state of Georgia. "
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