Reduction in vaccine efficacy (variants, duration of immunity, etc.) to 64% in Israel on contamination in the Delta

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Reduction in vaccine efficacy (variants, duration of immunity, etc.) to 64% in Israel on contamination in the Delta




by Christophe » 24/06/21, 00:27

Everything is in the title ... my crystal ball is predicting an imminent turnaround of many pro vax ... who will be disillusioned with the decline in vaccine efficacy!

06/07/21 INFO ALERT !!

The actual vaccine efficacy would not be that promised (on the initial strain) because of the recent variants, in particular the Delta ... it would be 64 to 65% on the contamination with the Delta!

Summary below.
Everything is officially sourced.

Details on the new variants according to the official UK doc at the end of June 2021: sante-pollution-prevention / covid-mutations-et-variants-sars-cov2-evolution-immunite-treatments-vaccines-t16725-260.html # p453709



64% (efficiency of contamination on the Delta variant) these are the "official" figures in Israel since yesterday, July 5, 2021 ...

We find, by calculation and analysis of official figures: 65% in UK. Source: sante-pollution-prevention / 40-positive-covid-vaccines-in-israel-towards-a-villainous-reversal-of-pro-vax-t16908-250.html # p453989

Israel is mostly Pfizer ... and UK AstraZeneca ...


Official press release in Israel:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ministry- ... lta-cases/

New Health Ministry figures reported by the Ynet news site indicated that over the past month, the vaccine, which has been the one used for almost all vaccinated Israelis, has been just 64 percent effective in preventing coronavirus infection.


Israel's health ministry said it now believes the vaccine is only 64% effective in preventing symptomatic infections, which compares to the efficacy rate of around 95% in clinical trials in 2020. , he said in a statement posted on Twitter. The vaccine remains around 93% effective in preventing hospitalizations and deaths, the ministry said. Experts have repeatedly warned of the need to vaccinate at least 70% of the world's population to prevent the emergence of new variants that could prove resistant to existing vaccines.

https://www.fr24news.com/fr/a/2021/07/i ... ement.html



The CEO of MODERNA announces another 1 to 2 years of Pandemic with cycles of variants:





Read this government news from early July 2021 on variants: sante-pollution-prevention / covid-mutations-et-variants-sars-cov2-evolution-immunite-treatments-vaccines-t16725-260.html # p453698

When I say pro vax it is at all social educational levels ... From Axel Kahn to the journalist who does not check his sources and who makes propaganda to the teenager who is going to be injected with experimental shit in all innocence bypassing the opportunistic tweeter, facebooker and youtuber and lick money and system (some are handsomely and discreetly paid to do propaganda)!

Let us not forget of course and especially to our dear politicians who will claim in 6 months "that they could not know" ... : Shock: : Shock: : Shock:

The most abject in all of this bin it will be the reversals of jackets that we will have in the coming weeks... who bets 1 BTC with me? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

Or no no no, I prefer one or 2 Orval, it is more palpable and I'm not venal ...

This topic follows this unfortunate news (predicted on this forum few months ago...) : health-pollution-prevention / covid-19-list-of-effective-vaccines-t16510-2890.html # p451928

robob wrote: https://www.i24news.tv/fr/actu/israel/1 ... e-la-sante

Israel: "40% of new infected people are vaccinated" (former director general of the Ministry of Health)

https://www.i24news.tv/fr/actu/israel/1 ... ion-en-24h

Coronavirus: for the first time in two months, Israel records more than 100 new cases of contamination in 24 hours


Edit addition, here are the curves:

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The graphic resolution, 60% of vaccinated and 40% of positive vaccinated gives a real vaccine efficacy of less than 55% ... far from the false promises of Pfizer and Cie ...

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Source: sante-pollution-prevention / 40-positive-covid-vaccines-in-israel-towards-a-villainous-reversal-of-pro-vax-t16908-20.html # p453002





Analysis since: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus
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Re: 40% of positive covid vaccinated in Israel: towards a villainous turnaround of pro vax?




by izentrop » 24/06/21, 01:45

Watch out for the return of the crank : Mrgreen:
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by Janic » 24/06/21, 08:08

izentrop »24 / 06 / 21, 01: 45
Watch out for the return of the crank
the zizi which remained blocked at the beginning of the 20th century, not surprising for all the rest! It's not gaffe, it's Gaston la Gaffe 'incarnate!
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Re: 40% of positive covid vaccinated in Israel: towards a villainous turnaround of pro vax?




by Christophe » 24/06/21, 12:30

izentrop wrote:Watch out for the return of the crank : Mrgreen:


Which ? : Cheesy:
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Re: 40% of positive covid vaccinated in Israel: towards a villainous turnaround of pro vax?




by ENERC » 24/06/21, 17:46

I put here the text of a comment to this article:
on the contrary, these figures indicate a 4 times greater probability for the unvaccinated to contract the virus. For example, if we consider a population of 1000 people (including 700 vaccinated and 300 unvaccinated) and 100 positive for the Delta variant (40 vaccinated and 60 unvaccinated), the probability of being positive for: - One vaccinated is 40/700 = 0.05 - an unvaccinated 60/300 = 0.2 or 4 times more In addition nothing is said about the symptoms / severe forms in vaccinated vs unvaccinated


It just makes sense. If 100% of the population were vaccinated, 100% of cases would be in vaccinated people.
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Re: 40% of positive covid vaccinated in Israel: towards a villainous turnaround of pro vax?




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 24/06/21, 18:13

It's beautiful like ABC and unverified, unverifiable. So unreliable.
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Re: 40% of positive covid vaccinated in Israel: towards a villainous turnaround of pro vax?




by sicetaitsimple » 24/06/21, 19:14

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:It's beautiful like ABC and unverified, unverifiable. So unreliable.


If the original figures cited by Christophe are reliable (100 cases including 40 vaccinated), it is perfectly reliable given the proportion of people vaccinated and the population in Israel. You can do the math yourself.
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by ABC2019 » 24/06/21, 19:30

sicetaitsimple wrote:You can do the math yourself.

The problem is here ... : Lol:
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Re: 40% of positive covid vaccinated in Israel: towards a villainous turnaround of pro vax?




by Janic » 24/06/21, 19:44

GuyGadeboisLeRetour »24/06/21, 18:13

It's beautiful like ABC and unverified, unverifiable. So unreliable.
indeed the author of this "intellectual" fantasy (sic) is in an abstract and oriented supposition to prove what he wants to demonstrate while any other figures could have been given to demonstrate its opposite; so trash!
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Re: 40% of positive covid vaccinated in Israel: towards a villainous turnaround of pro vax?




by Exnihiloest » 24/06/21, 23:07

Christophe wrote:...
https://www.i24news.tv/fr/actu/israel/1 ... ion-en-24h

Coronavirus: for the first time in two months, Israel records more than 100 new cases of contamination in 24 hours


"125 cases of coronavirus contamination were recorded for 49.044 screening tests carried out, ie a contamination rate of 0,3% which remains extremely low."

It seems perfectly compatible with the effectiveness announced for Pfizer.
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