creosote

Discussion of methods of remediation and control air quality.
Christophe
Moderator
Moderator
posts: 79124
Registration: 10/02/03, 14:06
Location: Greenhouse planet
x 10973




by Christophe » 20/09/08, 11:26

Rabbit wrote:I think you should consider moving or better yet have the unsanitary apartment declared, this will force the owner to do the necessary work.


+1 but still there must be a law concerning this specific pollutant!

We saw that there was already a legal vacuum on pesticides ...

https://www.econologie.com/forums/pesticides ... t5937.html
0 x
User avatar
Rabbit
Grand Econologue
Grand Econologue
posts: 823
Registration: 22/07/05, 23:50
x 2




by Rabbit » 20/09/08, 13:07

D or advice on legal protection insurance.
I remind you that you must subscribe to it before taking any action
even amicably.

After 4 to 6 months (read the contract) it's good you can stuff
inside.
0 x
Christophe
Moderator
Moderator
posts: 79124
Registration: 10/02/03, 14:06
Location: Greenhouse planet
x 10973




by Christophe » 20/09/08, 13:13

Rabbit wrote:After 4 to 6 months (...) it's good you can stuff
inside.


It is a word of Rabbit that !!! Image
0 x
goldmund
I discovered econologic
I discovered econologic
posts: 2
Registration: 20/09/08, 09:10

re carbonyl parquet




by goldmund » 21/09/08, 11:31

hi and thank you for your interest in my case, in terms of going to court, I would like to avoid because I am rather on good terms with the owner with whom we have already made the agreement of a low rent for a rather average comfort, which does not bother me except this carbonyl story: I want to do without high-performance insulation, but I really have the feeling that this product is a "crap" and that more or less long term, I would feel the consequences (if this is not already the case).
regarding a palliative, I read in this forum that brushing wood treated with carbonyl with linseed oil could limit the damage.
do you think i should do that?
0 x
User avatar
Rabbit
Grand Econologue
Grand Econologue
posts: 823
Registration: 22/07/05, 23:50
x 2




by Rabbit » 21/09/08, 16:29

It is a plaster on a wooden leg.

I have oil in linseed oil from the woods treated with
carbonyl, but it was wood outside.

The smell of carbonyl is no longer noticeable, but it
do not mean that there are no more toxic fumes.

Inside this will limit the spread of the toxin but in the long term
I'm not sure if you are saved.

There are no 36 solutions, either you leave or you have the
work required to decontaminate the building.
If there are other people who live with you, think of them
before deciding to stay that cost that cost.
0 x
Epitoto
I discovered econologic
I discovered econologic
posts: 3
Registration: 22/12/22, 23:57

Re: creosote




by Epitoto » 23/12/22, 00:21

Hello,

I have the same problem in my country house (smell coming from the beams when I heat the house).

How do you know if it's creosote?

How to deal with the problem?
0 x
User avatar
Obamot
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 28725
Registration: 22/08/09, 22:38
Location: regio genevesis
x 5538

Re: creosote




by Obamot » 24/12/22, 14:35

Hello and welcome...

Pictures?

Odors can come from many things!
Motor oil blackens the wood, are your beams black?

There is a solution that is given, it is to coat your beams with linseed oil. But it also has an odor when it goes rancid on contact with the air. So any wood coating for the exterior could be suitable (oil paint, you have it once a year at L..l for different types of species, be careful, wood that has never been treated it "drinks a lot", you can make x2 in quantity compared to what the packaging mentions, at worst even X3 and it will give you a second layer... It will keep for years...)
IMG20220606103012.jpg

But before that I would put on protection like Xylophene (toxic so protections required, mask and gloves required)
Last edited by Obamot the 24 / 12 / 22, 15: 02, 1 edited once.
0 x
Epitoto
I discovered econologic
I discovered econologic
posts: 3
Registration: 22/12/22, 23:57

Re: creosote




by Epitoto » 24/12/22, 15:02

Hello, thank you for your advice.
The beams seem glazed so difficult to know the color.

There was no smell from April (moving in) to September. The smell appeared as soon as we heated the living room.
It doesn't smell in the house when we're there, but the smell permeates our clothes and we discover it when we leave this country house.

Would it be worth stripping the beams or airbrushing? Or would it be useless?
And then what to put back on those beams? (Xylophene? Lazur? Varnish?)

Or do you think not to strip and apply a product directly on these beams?

How do you know if it's really carbonyl (or creosote) that gives this smell?
Attachments
Screenshot_20221220_001154_Gallery.jpg
Screenshot_20221220_001135_Gallery.jpg
Screenshot_20221220_001028_Gallery.jpg
0 x
User avatar
Obamot
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 28725
Registration: 22/08/09, 22:38
Location: regio genevesis
x 5538

Re: creosote




by Obamot » 24/12/22, 15:17

Nice living space, by the way... (You painted the ladder, right?)

Without wanting to go too far, it's not, it's too regular and too dark.

And creosote is matte, while the coating of your beams seems satiny:

Screenshot_2022-12-24-15-08-45-34_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.png
Screenshot_2022-12-24-15-08-45-34_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.png (137.35 Kio) Consulté 1043 fois

Are your beams (those not painted white) a little sticky to the touch or satiny like stained wood?

For Xylophene you can forget, unless you plan to redo the entire roof (because this product against pests must be applied absolutely everywhere)

I strongly advise against the stain that cracks, since then, if you want to renew the treatment and it has cracked, hello the chore of sanding... You have to remove EVERYTHING if not its crack again every year... Nothing such with oil paint (which also 'nourishes' the wood, and means of controlling its condition over the years...)..
0 x
Epitoto
I discovered econologic
I discovered econologic
posts: 3
Registration: 22/12/22, 23:57

Re: creosote




by Epitoto » 24/12/22, 15:34

The beams are not sticky and do not stick.

I give you 2 photos.

On a photo in the right corner you can see part of the beams that had not been painted (because it was in a closed attic).
Attachments
Screenshot_20221224_152451_Chrome.jpg
Screenshot_20221224_152451_Chrome.jpg (499.02 KiB) Viewed 1030 times
IMG-20221224-WA0009.jpg
IMG-20221224-WA0009.jpg (73.01 KIO) Accessed 1030 times
0 x

 


  • Similar topics
    Replies
    views
    Last message

Back to "Air Pollution and solutions against air pollution"

Who is online ?

Users browsing this forum : No registered users and 51 guests