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by I Citro » 11/07/08, 13:02

lejustemilieu wrote:: D Hello Discus, and welcome


+1 : Cheesy:

For teetotalers I realize it comes to drink water out of the osmosis, as I've always heard that it was not precisely becaufe was demineralized !!! : Shock:

I remember that an uncle who had a "water softener" (it's a reverse osmosis unit ???) took drinking water before his device.

The purpose of the unit is to preserve limestone, pipes and appliances.
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by the middle » 11/07/08, 13:39

water softener "(it's a reverse osmosis unit ???)

Bin ein not, the purpose of the softener is to avoid the limestone formations in the house plumbing and the electrical appliances.
The softener changes the PH is all
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by I Citro » 11/07/08, 16:31

lejustemilieu wrote:
water softener "(it's a reverse osmosis unit ???)

Bin ein not, the purpose of the softener is to avoid the limestone formations in the house plumbing and the electrical appliances.
The softener changes the PH is all


Oh and to do this it uses the salt?
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by the middle » 11/07/08, 17:05

:D Wiki explains better than me.
Well, he also talks about reverse osmosis at 5% loss..not much : Shock:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adoucisseur_d%27eau
I fixed the link, déconnait..ça vat perhaps again
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by Lietseu » 11/07/08, 17:49

lejustemilieu wrote:: D Wiki explains better than me.
Well, he also talks about reverse osmosis at 5% loss..not much : Shock:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adoucisseur_d'eau


Sorry, but here I see a big error, the low losses are valid for the softener system, NOT FOR the Osmoseur, I quote: "the water losses. Indeed, the concentrate which contains all the salts which do not have not passed through the membrane (s), represents about 25% of the incoming flow, for industrial installations. This water then contains too much salt for agriculture, and is therefore lost "source = wikipédia http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmose_inverse

In a water softener as explained on Wikipedia, the water coming from the network passes through a resin filter and towards your valves, part of water charged with NaCl salt (+/- 5%) periodically passes through the filter in another axis? and in doing so cleans the cartridge deposits of limestone and other impurities, the method is incorporated into all dishwashers! (I still wonder why not in the lava linen? Too expensive?)
Before washing, it is clearly understood that small amounts of water are injected into the dishwasher and a pump turns a moment BEFORE you start filling the machine in water!

About this for years I have been using bulk salt, sold in the super (hyper) market (20kg bag) of food grade (Nezo brand) which sells up to 10X cheaper than the "special salt tablets for dishwashers "which are a scam galore :x

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by I Citro » 11/07/08, 19:02

Lietseu wrote:... For years I have been using bulk salt, sold in the super (hyper) market (20kg bag) of food grade (Nezo brand) which is sold up to 10X cheaper than the "special salt tablets for dishwashers "which are a scam galore :x

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Thank you for econological tip of the day.

About the washing machine, since I use washing balls, the interior of the drum remains nickel, but the outside becomes matte sign that the limestone is deposited. I then mounted on the tap of the washing machine an in-line filter containing polyphosphate.
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by little sparrow » 11/07/08, 20:20

Bonjour,

houloulou .... it goes in all directions there .... difficult to navigate ....

good to recap a bit ...:

- a good reverse osmosis unit must have a "yield" of 1 to 4 or 1 to 3 ... (if a salesman tells you that his device has a yield of 1 to 1, perhaps, but then his device is "choked" and will not perform optimally ..)
- the osmosis rinsing water is not necessarily "lost" or thrown into the sewers !! , whoever wants to lose it, but if you think about it, nothing prevents you from recovering it for other use ....
- A RO water is not a water ofmineralized, nor distilled ... !!
- A reverse osmosis water is not dangerous to health as water consumption ...
- if you want to "remineralize" (for fear) reverse osmosis water, a grain of coarse Himalayan salt or unrefined salt in a carafe of water is enough .....
- the neutral pH is 7.2, the ideal in conso water being from 6.5 to 7.5 ...
.......

> concerning the "case" of fabio:
it would also be good to confirm if the water that was osmosis at your place is city water or not ....
because with a pH of 5.75 at the outlet of the osmosis unit, either the device is screwing up, or the water before the reverse osmosis unit is already at a pH too low, but at this point, it would no longer be compliant ("potable") if city water!

Also, what was the water conductivity output device .. ??
(very important to know .., but not even informed either! ..)

I hope that the reverse osmosis water was softened beforehand .... !!!!

> I don't know any "remineralization cartridge with membrane outlet" on any osmosis ... (???)

> the composition of an aquarium device is "neither complete" nor suitable for domestic use ...

> Citro,
be careful when you are careful about maintaining a filter (whatever it is ..)
if we do not respect the cartridge change in due time ... we actually worse than better ....

what problems "do you know" about the CA .. ??

> be careful indeed, do not confuse water softener and reverse osmosis unit ...: nothing to see ..
do not drink water softened by softening ...

a softener does not modify the "pH" .., but the "° Th" .... (hardness)

> polyphosphate beads are one of the "anti-limestone" processes, effective, but which "prevent the deposit" of limestone, but does not eliminate it ...
(only the softener "eliminates" it ..)

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for those who want to know more about reverse osmosis & Cie ..., you can always search a little my site and my blog, and also see on the side of the reference works indicated in heading "library", written and controlled by specialists in the subject ....
except for those who are reluctant to go out of € 30 wallet and a minimum reading ....


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by I Citro » 11/07/08, 20:47

: Arrow: Thank you again little sparrow for these very useful developments. 8)
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by Lietseu » 11/07/08, 22:49

citro wrote:: arrow: Thank you again little sparrow for these very useful developments. 8)


I would say even more, dupont!

Thank you :D
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by jonule » 15/07/08, 11:17

Lietseu wrote:About this for years I have been using bulk salt, sold in the super (hyper) market (20kg bag) of food grade (Nezo brand) which sells up to 10X cheaper than the "special salt tablets for dishwashers "which are a scam galore :x

Hello,
I know that to be loaded electrical softener (nuclear?) home for years with big bags of salt rather heavy ... my parents have traded against a magnetic tube, but a real not a gimmick, it should listen to 1000 F, the problem of limestone is partially solved. there are also magnetic balls for dishwashers (the square holes are best), we can check the status of the electrical resistance to learn, or limestone on glasses lemon or vinegar dissolves.
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