Approval of a "water motor"

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Approval of a water engine




by yahi » 02/09/05, 00:38

Christophe, you noted:
1) A conventional combustion engine (spark ignition) is able to burn pure hydogen with some modifications for better efficiency and reliability (materials of the chamber, seats and valves, piston, ignition adjustment, etc. ...). The main difficulty lies in the storage of Hydrogen (27 gas is lighter than air and so small that it diffuses in most materials) This type of engine could of course be called Hydrogen Engine.

to the page https://www.econologie.com/le-moteur-a-h ... es-90.html

but André says:
"Don't panic with the rust, it's been a little shaking that I walk with water, the engine has never been so clean, the spark plugs are like new. All white, an injection of water in an engine can do rust, but from the steam, it makes the quince heat up in the engine.
rust occurs mainly on engines which run very little from short journeys to very cold weather.
We must not forget that all engines when it swallows from 200 to 300 cubic meters of air with a relative humidity of 40% it makes a few liters of water, it is not for nothing that when it -25C or - 30C here That the holes of men on the road spit out a column of vapor, you leave a good space with the vehicle in front of you, you have the impression to roll in a cloud or to follow a steam car, I suppose that in summer it is the same but we do not see this vapor.

So according to you, what must be the modifications to effect to adapt a gasoline engine, to the combustion of hydrogen?
and for a diesel engine, is it not possible to do something?

for lubrication, there are gas lubricants in the tire stuff (even at castorama), there is a gas kit to fit on classic engines: http://www.gaz-l.com/site/k_avantage.html

please tell me what to modify and how ??

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by Rabbit » 02/09/05, 00:49

I do not know where I am going to arrive on this site
maybe you will find a source of energy for
supply the water electrolysis.

<a href='http://www.surrealiste.org/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum= 19 'target =' _ blank '> http://www.surrealiste.org/modules/newbb/v...um.php?forum= 19

The technique seems very promising. In our case the heat source
exhaust gauze, and cooling could be by air or
by means of an upper radiator.

I believe that the subject merits reflection.
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by gegyx » 02/09/05, 02:04

Rabbit wrote:I do not know where I am going to arrive on this site
maybe you will find a source of energy for
supply the water electrolysis.

<a href='http://www.surrealiste.org/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum= 19 'target =' _ blank '> http://www.surrealiste.org/modules/newbb/v...um.php?forum= 19



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by Rabbit » 02/09/05, 08:42

Thank you gegyx, to refresh my memory.

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by pinkfloyd30 » 02/09/05, 11:08

HOW ARE PATENTS ON THE JOURNEY IN TIME !!!! ???? great, me who dreamed of seeing Woodstock, no but other than that, there was not already had a post on the water engine with a simple electrolysis ??? Frankly quesqu'le missing this process ??? good ok for the electrolysis it would be necessary to recover a large part of the energy of the engine so it would not be profitable ??? no ? in the bingofuel test on the generator we can see that the fleet does not last long even if the thing runs at high speed.
But it could not work the mix of electrolysis + the pantone reactor ???
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by Christophe » 02/09/05, 12:48

It lacks that the best current electrolyses have a yield of 30% ... it takes 1 electric joule to obtain 0.3 joule hydrogen (therefore thermal). Given that the yield of the best processes this thermal-mechanical conversion is 50%, the electrolysis should have a yield of at least 200% in order to be able to self-feed this process ....

For the mix, some have tested with more or less "good" results but I don't know if it has anything to do with this idea ...
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by Christophe » 02/09/05, 12:51

Rabbit wrote:The technique seems very promising. In our case the heat source the exhaust gases, and the cooling could be done by air or by means of an upper radiator.

As with the calopile, you should not expect spectacular yields ... 20% at best.
It is reserved for the generation of electricity as a "bonus" thermal installation with large amount of heat loss (10% loss of an industrial boiler for example)
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by Christophe » 02/09/05, 12:56

yahi wrote:So according to you, what must be the modifications to effect to adapt a gasoline engine, to the combustion of hydrogen?
and for a diesel engine, is it not possible to do something?

I am not a specialist in the combustion of H2 but here is what I know.

Mercedes made a combustion engine powered by H2 in the 80s, I think the main modifications were on the nature of the materials of the combustion chamber and moving part (ceramic in other) and on the ignition map (l 'h2 burns 10 times faster than gasoline)

In practice, any petrol engine will run by injecting pure H2 into the intake pipe (not too far from the engine because the hydrogen passes through certain materials by a diffusion phenomenon ... it is therefore necessary to work on it to optimize the thing also) but to optimize its use it is necessary to work on the 2 point quoted above ... In short it is unattainable for individuals as we are ...
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