Air Info: machines, flights, landscapes, exploits, crashes ...

The developments of forums and the site. Humor and conviviality between the members of the forum - Tout est anything - Presentation of new registered members Relaxation, free time, leisure, sports, vacations, passions ... What do you do with your free time? Forum exchanges on our passions, activities, leisure ... creative or recreational! Publish your ads. Classifieds, cyber-actions and petitions, interesting sites, calendar, events, fairs, exhibitions, local initiatives, association activities .... No purely commercial advertising please.
User avatar
Obamot
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 28725
Registration: 22/08/09, 22:38
Location: regio genevesis
x 5538

Re: Air Info: machines, flights, landscapes, exploits, crashes ...




by Obamot » 15/01/23, 01:01

As there were also photos (and without wanting to go too far) one of the observers noticed two things
— as the jet approached in a hover, the jettison bay was closed, but shortly before the aircraft began the terminal phase of landing, the jettison bay was then revealed to be open, "unheard of since the 1st flight", he will say)
— smoke billowing from the rear just before the aircraft pitches forward and appears to be a go-around (or malfunction).

anyone who has done a bit of statics and dynamic strength of materials, will understand that the hatch (not the cargo bay) that opens above the fuselage near the cockpit during a landing — towards a point of balance located in the middle of the aircraft - and this to control the descent by the thrust device provided, can be harmful in the event of a go-around, or to constitute in an involuntary and catastrophic way, a kind of fulcrum acting as a lever arm causing a tipping forward, and this is exactly what we see on the video following the ejection of smoke. (in what turns out to be bad timing in the process, but if so, maybe not the only factor)

Here is the video showing the opening of the hold:



Obviously, what I say is not a conclusion, and far from being a complete panel in the tree of causes, (which must include 'pilot error) just observable elements in a trial of their partial recording , but still quite visible.
1 x
User avatar
Remundo
Moderator
Moderator
posts: 15989
Registration: 15/10/07, 16:05
Location: Clermont Ferrand
x 5187

Re: Air Info: machines, flights, landscapes, exploits, crashes ...




by Remundo » 15/01/23, 09:16

from an engineering standpoint, I'm not too sold on a VTOL fighter.

The system is complex, very energy intensive and delicate. In addition, it weighs down the aircraft and makes it incompatible for the carriage of certain weapons or fuel reserves.

Normally a fighter plane does not need to make a vertical landing. It has an air base with adequate runway or an aircraft carrier.

If a short take-off is needed, the catapult system is well proven. Likewise when landing with the hooking cable.

On the other hand, on other aircraft, such as helicopters, the VTOL seems much more reasonable.
0 x
Image
Christophe
Moderator
Moderator
posts: 79112
Registration: 10/02/03, 14:06
Location: Greenhouse planet
x 10972

Re: Air Info: machines, flights, landscapes, exploits, crashes ...




by Christophe » 15/01/23, 16:31

Well done for the Boches, they had to buy Europeans! : Mrgreen:
1 x
User avatar
Macro
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 6458
Registration: 04/12/08, 14:34
x 1610

Re: Air Info: machines, flights, landscapes, exploits, crashes ...




by Macro » 18/03/23, 08:55

0 x
The only thing safe in the future. It is that there may chance that it conforms to our expectations ...
Christophe
Moderator
Moderator
posts: 79112
Registration: 10/02/03, 14:06
Location: Greenhouse planet
x 10972

Re: Air Info: machines, flights, landscapes, exploits, crashes ...




by Christophe » 28/06/23, 21:24

0 x

 


  • Similar topics
    Replies
    views
    Last message

Go back to "The bistro: site life, leisure and relaxation, humor and conviviality and Classifieds"

Who is online ?

Users browsing this forum : No registered users and 225 guests