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by Obamot » 18/09/22, 12:15

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Macro wrote:Bad by worse than a naturopath in handjobs...
but in handjobs he is a specialist and particularly on children like his pseudozetetic friends, big suppliers of fake news of all kinds!
Janic wrote:
Macro wrote:Who is it who advocates seat baths with friction of the genitals....Me or you?
I advocate everything that is effective and helps suffering individuals to get better, without stupid judgment from one or more characters who have not even verified the merits of these therapies.
Janic wrote:
Macro wrote:Who endorses the removal of children from the traditional education system to "family" institutions, you or me?
one more handjob. Quote me, with precision and without cut, what I would have said on this subject!
Janic wrote:
Macro wrote: Your memory is failing, old badernum
It can happen, as for you it seems!
Janic wrote:
Macro wrote: And frankly naturopathy... With the idea that we can worry about it according to your writings... I prefer not to know anything about it...
historically everything that is not orthodox, (scientific consensus of your friend Izmenteur) is automatically rejected by the ignorant I'd rather not know... it's up to you! Which does not oblige you to use defamation for all that!

PS! small reminder, also underlined by Obamot, the major health reforms among others, were the work of dissidents, non-conformists like Semmelweis, Jenner (not Pasteur obviously, even if the idea could have been effective)
note: this reflection and answer is carried over to the initial subject
I will not talk about this specific case and borderline for some (since I have no experience in this field, nor do I know it) but more modestly an essay to better understand the profession of “naturopath in general”. Try because each doctor is better placed than anyone else to define themselves. And so let's move forward on the minefield of generalities. : Mrgreen:

Macro responded inappropriately, with a rhetorical sense all its own. Already becausethis is what the EBM paradigm wants to instill in people” (a system of medicine where knowledge would be centralized and that nothing could call into question in the name of “science” and if I schematize), and because (without being too mistaken) most naturopaths, to practice as than doctors, must follow a university course absolutely identical to allopaths! I therefore do not see a naturopath continuing his discipline without therapeutic success: that would call into question his mission as a caregiver. It's not that allopaths don't get results, but they come too late and with far too harmful products — putting out a fire is good, but making sure it doesn't break out is is still better... — but everyone does as they want or rather for some “everyone does what they think they can do”... (at least that's not how bio-chemistry works...).

I'm still a disturbing and threatening guy to say such things (lol : Cheesy: ) I threaten you to get sick if you eat junk food or if you give in to destructive cognitive behaviors: you have to lock me up : Mrgreen:

Naturopaths who have seen the success of their prescriptions (which are not guaranteed since they depend on “efforts” which should not be since freely consented to by their patients) but who work regularly... Just try it on oneself.

Macro said that he had setbacks with “alternative medicine”, whereas he suffers for having turned to allopathy (or something): it is surely true since he says it. But the fact is that nothing would have worked out for him, alas. This type of case with a heavy history of abuse/excess of all kinds exists. But nature is generous and nothing prevents doing both, prevention converges towards a better state of health by persevering (or possibly avoids/slows down further deterioration)... And it is safe and even recommended by allopaths themselves! (Go figure...)

Others are sometimes badly advised but for some, it is “their” choice. You can't blame anyone, inflicting poisons on yourself is addictive, easy to notice when you stray. And then junk food is present absolutely everywhere.

No one prevents anyone from drinking and/or smoking, others from eating sweets all day long, from gorging on dairy products, bread or pasta, steak and fries or hamburgers, but there is a time when the inflammatory threshold is so high that everything goes into a spin with this junk food, unfortunately far too acidic to "succeed in homeostasis" in an appropriate way... and this is the tipping point in chronic conditions (or even worse, it has caused deaths during covid).

Unfortunately sometimes, without even extreme patterns, because we trust the “system” and therefore think that “because it's sold it's safe we are deceived and fall ill without the knowledge of our own free will...
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by Janic » 18/09/22, 14:16

Overall it's good! however some nuances are useful.
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I will not talk about this specific case and borderline for some (since I have no experience in this field, nor do I know it) but more modestly an essay to better understand the profession of “naturopath in general”. Try because each doctor is better placed than anyone else to define themselves. And suddenly let us advance on the minefield of generalities.
Doctors "naturopaths" are as rare (except in Switzerland perhaps?) as hair on the head of a bald person, so we cannot and should not limit "naturopathy" to the profession of doctor, all specialties combined.
and because (without being too mistaken) most naturopaths, to practice as doctors, must complete a university course absolutely identical to allopaths!
Except that, again, the real naturopaths do not come out of universities (too conform to “dietary” and medical beliefs to be credible.)
naturopath to continue his discipline without therapeutic success: that would call into question his mission as a caregiver.
All right ! A tree can be recognized by its fruit, not by the label attached to the trunk.
Macro said that he had setbacks with “alternative medicine”, whereas he suffers for having turned to allopathy (or something): it is surely true since he says it. But the fact is that nothing would have worked out for him, alas. This type of case with a heavy history of abuse/excess of all kinds exists. But nature is generous and nothing prevents doing both, prevention converges towards a better state of health by persevering (or possibly avoids/slows down further deterioration)... And it is safe and even recommended by allopaths themselves! (Go figure...)
more and more young doctors dare to realize that their university medicine cannot respond to all cases and they are therefore open to other approaches.
Unfortunately, for setbacks, we find them in all disciplines, including outside the field of health and a personal failure is not, and cannot be, representative of the discipline.
Moreover, there as elsewhere, there are more or less competent and specialized people just as one does not consult a surgeon for a simple cold or the reverse. So everyone, including a classic doctor, must find out about the skills and practical results of the therapist. or reputation ( Diafoirus and Knock, there are everywhere)
What is Knock's moral?
With Knock, Jules Romains denounces the rape of consciences, the enslavement of the masses to the scientific and commercial age, when an unscrupulous being speculates on our atavistic fears or plays with our faults.

Last but not least:
if school medicine brought the right answers to the ills of individuals and with the most appropriate means, there would be no more sufferers seeking (and often finding) a solution elsewhere! naturopathy” being only one of the symptoms of the failure of a monopolistic and totalitarian medicine.
Note: I hear TV where a doctor consults a patient for pain and who therefore advises her…doliprane, replacing the usual aspirin.
I already, a long time ago, told the story of a close person suffering from permanent conjunctivitis, for decades, and instilling many products to be relieved, but totally opposed to our natural remedies.
Really suffering too much and in desperation, she tried our system and in two days it was over to her great astonishment and since then, in the event of an alert, she starts again and it disappears just as quickly.
And I have cited other cases (personal or close experience) of the same ilk, but if people prefer suffering to better being, it is their choice (often imposed by the way) and therefore a non-choice precisely! : Cry:
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 18/09/22, 20:19

Obamot wrote:Blablabla ....
I will not talk about this specific and borderline case for some (since I have no experience in its field, nor do I know it) *.
<<< Supreme blabla

What French law says

In France, the profession of naturopath not doctor is not legislated by law (legal vacuum), unlike many other European countries (Germany, Great Britain, Ireland, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, Sweden, Portugal, Hungary, Belgium, Spain) which, depending on the country, benefit from a specific framework (legal provision, administrative provision, tolerance, etc.).

This does not prevent the naturopath from practicing in France (his APE code is 8690F: "Human health activities not classified elsewhere"), as long as he does not appear as a doctor and does not perform any medical act, or diagnosis according to article L.4161-1 of the Health Code.


* Dare to say the scammer who liked almost all of Grandpa's answers on the subject!!!! : Shock:
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by Obamot » 18/09/22, 21:02

Janic wrote:Overall it's good! however some nuances are useful.
obamot
I will not talk about this specific case and borderline for some (since I have no experience in this field, nor do I know it) but more modestly an essay to better understand the profession of “naturopath in general”. Try because each doctor is better placed than anyone else to define themselves. And suddenly let us advance on the minefield of generalities.
Doctors "naturopaths" are as rare (except in Switzerland perhaps?) as hair on the head of a bald person, so we cannot and should not limit "naturopathy" to the profession of doctor, all specialties combined.
and because (without being too mistaken) most naturopaths, to practice as doctors, must complete a university course absolutely identical to allopaths!
Except that, again, the real naturopaths do not come out of universities (too conform to “dietary” and medical beliefs to be credible.)
naturopath to continue his discipline without therapeutic success: that would call into question his mission as a caregiver.
All right ! A tree can be recognized by its fruit, not by the label attached to the trunk.
Macro said that he had setbacks with “alternative medicine”, whereas he suffers for having turned to allopathy (or something): it is surely true since he says it. But the fact is that nothing would have worked out for him, alas. This type of case with a heavy history of abuse/excess of all kinds exists. But nature is generous and nothing prevents doing both, prevention converges towards a better state of health by persevering (or possibly avoids/slows down further deterioration)... And it is safe and even recommended by allopaths themselves! (Go figure...)
more and more young doctors dare to realize that their university medicine cannot respond to all cases and they are therefore open to other approaches.
Unfortunately, for setbacks, we find them in all disciplines, including outside the field of health and a personal failure is not, and cannot be, representative of the discipline.
Moreover, there as elsewhere, there are more or less competent and specialized people just as one does not consult a surgeon for a simple cold or the reverse. So everyone, including a classic doctor, must find out about the skills and practical results of the therapist. or reputation ( Diafoirus and Knock, there are everywhere)
What is Knock's moral?
With Knock, Jules Romains denounces the rape of consciences, the enslavement of the masses to the scientific and commercial age, when an unscrupulous being speculates on our atavistic fears or plays with our faults.

Last but not least:
if school medicine brought the right answers to the ills of individuals and with the most appropriate means, there would be no more sufferers seeking (and often finding) a solution elsewhere! naturopathy” being only one of the symptoms of the failure of a monopolistic and totalitarian medicine.
Note: I hear TV where a doctor consults a patient for pain and who therefore advises her…doliprane, replacing the usual aspirin.
I already, a long time ago, told the story of a close person suffering from permanent conjunctivitis, for decades, and instilling many products to be relieved, but totally opposed to our natural remedies.
Really suffering too much and in desperation, she tried our system and in two days it was over to her great astonishment and since then, in the event of an alert, she starts again and it disappears just as quickly.
And I have cited other cases (personal or close experience) of the same ilk, but if people prefer suffering to better being, it is their choice (often imposed by the way) and therefore a non-choice precisely! : Cry:
That's right, and to the physical sufferings are added the turpitudes of the soul and mental sufferings which inhibit the human impulses disturb the perception, the judgment and especially the discernment (in perdition sometimes) all kinds of remarks follow incoherent, negative or even lying or hysterical (I've seen it a few times in conferences and we see it right here)!

Zetetic cult members are rebellious and tenacious. Difficult for them to admit that they are wrong, they prefer the soft, cozy atmosphere of their egocentric comfort zone where everything is under control, where no one is going to contradict their certainties (which are however cracking)... In denial they are capable of the worst inventions, of shooting down a career, a life, out of simple jealousy... Pathetic.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 18/09/22, 22:00

There, question of inconsistency, negative and hysteria, you're absolutely right. Cf: my signature which are your words. What's more than charred? Atomized! Here you are atomized.
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by sicetaitsimple » 18/09/22, 22:28

Janic wrote:And I have cited other cases (personal or close experience) of the same ilk, but if people prefer suffering to better being, it is their choice (often imposed by the way) and therefore a non-choice precisely! : Cry:

Obamot wrote:That's right, and to the physical sufferings are added the turpitudes of the soul and mental sufferings which inhibit the human impulses disturb the perception, the judgment and especially the discernment (in perdition sometimes) follows all kinds incoherent, negative or even untruthful or hysterical remarks (I've seen it a few times in conferences and we see it right here)!


You're right to outbid "from personal experience", it's your spitting image.
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by Janic » 19/09/22, 08:28

simpleton
You're right to outbid "from personal experience", it's your spitting image.
Everyone's life is made up of personal experiences, so it's the portrait of all of us (except for the very simple moron, it seems!)
Besides, all the medicines in the world are not based on something else (except : Arrowu: of course!) and especially your beloved medicine made of biologically toxic chemicals!
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by Obamot » 01/02/23, 10:42

Little UP

And following this vomit: pedrodelavega-u16621/
How that crazy Pedro is equaling some of the craziest posts of my ex "friend" De-boa ... it belongs here in the same slurry (we all remember the double game of these bags to garbage cans, who liked him among... And both of them also, THE SAME, who believed that by accusing the fo-fo of "extremism", they were going to sink him: the opposite is looming ...)

pedrodelavega wrote:
Remundo wrote:As much as we must condemn the war in Donbass waged since 2014 by the Ukrainian army against Russian-speaking civilians in the East.
It is a war, started by Putin who armed the pro-Russians and integrated Russian militias in the Donbass from 2014 to carry out a putsch (seizure of power by arms).
Big hole Duke, the putsch has a lot of place, but BEFORE: in February 2014, engineered by Washington in the background, with at the forefront of (facho-genocidal) like Poroshenko presented as (pseudo) democrats. The USA don't even hide it anymore and had moreover put their pawns in the putschist government (we don't understand why you specify "by arms"...there were deaths in Maidan and Yanukovych went into exile because he was threatened with death andouille.) And this even if Yanukovych was not a saint, but when he had been democratically elected a year before the electoral deadlines, he had been presented by the press Western, like a horrible autochrate in place for at least twenty years...!

pedrodelavega wrote:who after taking power by militias
Yes extreme c@nard acute, and before there was no putsch less than a year from the next elections, perhaps? And you admit thatgreat (peudo)-"democrat" to puke...

pedrodelavega wrote:Just before, he invaded and annexed Crimea
Referendum of March 27, 2014. And admitting what you say, if you read wiki, it is clearly stated: "Casus belli: Rejection of the Euromaidan government" and therefore of the "Remote-controlled Putsch", and if you could go further (but you would need your anti-depressants) you would think that this is how the Russians acted, seeing the West freeing itself from its own democratic rules and 'values'. Some sort of warning?

pedrodelavega wrote:At the time the Ukrainian army was in poor condition,
but no TDC, it's the WHOLE country that is on the verge of economic collapse at that time, and on a drip from the Russians (gas at dirt cheap under conditions, which they can't even pay) at At the time I even supported Tymoshenko, that bitch. That was without counting the USA with their boxes of one m3 of dollars...
pedrodelavega wrote:that's why the most nationalists took the lead to defend their territory (as is often the case)
Oh the tightrope walker who still can't admit that it's a generalized cultural trend whatever the hat, out of jealousy, excess of pride, satanic torchlight worships and other macabre cults with indoctrination from an early age up to the bitches schools

pedrodelavega wrote:Since then things have changed, they have a structured army which has been fighting since 2014 against the militias armed by Putin.
troll answer to which no one reacted, you understand there?

If we start from the hypothesis that Boris Nemtsov was openly a destabilizing agent, in the pay of foreigners, I would find the assassination stupid, so it is not the Kremlin which would have benefited better from a trial... . If there was one group that rocked the former USSR to bring it to where it is as a modern, 'democratic' state, it is today's Solidarity Government Team.

Given the previous backwardness of the former USSR, and given the blocking of minds around the 'welfare state' paradigm, I do not see what more could have been done. From certain points of view, Russia today is much more 'democratic' than many European plutocracies, don't you think? (Not a TDC question)
Those who denounced this are dead
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Nemtsov
What do you know, that having been grilled, Nemtsov was not assassinated by the CIA? To blame the Russians?

A word on the Merkel/Hollande/Johnson betrayal?

You are so naive, more than stupid. Worse than under your ex-pseudos here (PB2487/8) Which as a defector is not enough for you to understand the treacheries of this world (hin huh hin) but you in your brain of FDP apparent care bears, you would not be "concerned" of course...
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by Obamot » 22/03/23, 19:07

OUAF - OUAF ???

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by Ahmed » 22/03/23, 19:16

Shit!* You are also an expert in divination :?: : Shock:

*This is to show that I understand that I am in the right thread! 8)
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