Janic wrote:but in handjobs he is a specialist and particularly on children like his pseudozetetic friends, big suppliers of fake news of all kinds!Macro wrote:Bad by worse than a naturopath in handjobs...
Janic wrote:I advocate everything that is effective and helps suffering individuals to get better, without stupid judgment from one or more characters who have not even verified the merits of these therapies.Macro wrote:Who is it who advocates seat baths with friction of the genitals....Me or you?
Janic wrote:one more handjob. Quote me, with precision and without cut, what I would have said on this subject!Macro wrote:Who endorses the removal of children from the traditional education system to "family" institutions, you or me?
Janic wrote:It can happen, as for you it seems!Macro wrote: Your memory is failing, old badernum
I will not talk about this specific case and borderline for some (since I have no experience in this field, nor do I know it) but more modestly an essay to better understand the profession of “naturopath in general”. Try because each doctor is better placed than anyone else to define themselves. And so let's move forward on the minefield of generalities.Janic wrote:historically everything that is not orthodox, (scientific consensus of your friend Izmenteur) is automatically rejected by the ignorant I'd rather not know... it's up to you! Which does not oblige you to use defamation for all that!Macro wrote: And frankly naturopathy... With the idea that we can worry about it according to your writings... I prefer not to know anything about it...
PS! small reminder, also underlined by Obamot, the major health reforms among others, were the work of dissidents, non-conformists like Semmelweis, Jenner (not Pasteur obviously, even if the idea could have been effective)
note: this reflection and answer is carried over to the initial subject
Macro responded inappropriately, with a rhetorical sense all its own. Already becausethis is what the EBM paradigm wants to instill in people” (a system of medicine where knowledge would be centralized and that nothing could call into question in the name of “science” and if I schematize), and because (without being too mistaken) most naturopaths, to practice as than doctors, must follow a university course absolutely identical to allopaths! I therefore do not see a naturopath continuing his discipline without therapeutic success: that would call into question his mission as a caregiver. It's not that allopaths don't get results, but they come too late and with far too harmful products — putting out a fire is good, but making sure it doesn't break out is is still better... — but everyone does as they want or rather for some “everyone does what they think they can do”... (at least that's not how bio-chemistry works...).
I'm still a disturbing and threatening guy to say such things (lol ) I threaten you to get sick if you eat junk food or if you give in to destructive cognitive behaviors: you have to lock me up
Naturopaths who have seen the success of their prescriptions (which are not guaranteed since they depend on “efforts” which should not be since freely consented to by their patients) but who work regularly... Just try it on oneself.
Macro said that he had setbacks with “alternative medicine”, whereas he suffers for having turned to allopathy (or something): it is surely true since he says it. But the fact is that nothing would have worked out for him, alas. This type of case with a heavy history of abuse/excess of all kinds exists. But nature is generous and nothing prevents doing both, prevention converges towards a better state of health by persevering (or possibly avoids/slows down further deterioration)... And it is safe and even recommended by allopaths themselves! (Go figure...)
Others are sometimes badly advised but for some, it is “their” choice. You can't blame anyone, inflicting poisons on yourself is addictive, easy to notice when you stray. And then junk food is present absolutely everywhere.
No one prevents anyone from drinking and/or smoking, others from eating sweets all day long, from gorging on dairy products, bread or pasta, steak and fries or hamburgers, but there is a time when the inflammatory threshold is so high that everything goes into a spin with this junk food, unfortunately far too acidic to "succeed in homeostasis" in an appropriate way... and this is the tipping point in chronic conditions (or even worse, it has caused deaths during covid).
Unfortunately sometimes, without even extreme patterns, because we trust the “system” and therefore think that “because it's sold it's safe we are deceived and fall ill without the knowledge of our own free will...