EDF wants to postpone the dismantling of its nuclear reactors ... to 2100!

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Re: EDF wants to postpone the dismantling of its nuclear reactors ... to 2100!




by Flytox » 11/06/16, 23:15

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chatelot16 wrote:what is the point of dismantling? when the power plants are working they are waterproof ... as long as they are maintained they will stay eatnche!

is it not easier to continue to maintain the old power stations, than to dismantle it to be obliged to build other structure to contain the waste, even more voluminous than the power station in its normal state




chatelot16 wrote:the question arises for the oldest low power nuclear power plants which are useless given their low power ... but even useless it seems to me more economical to maintain them than to dismantle them

and it seems that I am right: the cost of dismantling the oldest plant dissuades from dismantling the following ones ...


Uh not in working order but in "no leak" condition ... it's not the same!

Just sink a sarcophagus and seal it for hundreds of years! A few remote geiger sensors, a few technicians to monitor this and it is set ... infinitely cheaper and risky, even over 1000 years, than dismantling!

Easy to do for a plant that does not leak when we know that we are (re) doing it for Chernobyl full of leaks !!!


Well no! If the power stations were "planned" to be dismantled, it is precisely that a certain time we no longer know how to keep them waterproof without having to ablate larger and larger pieces, bulky items that cannot be handled without contaminating everything, air, water, soil, personnel, environment, etc. The carpet will never be large to hide everything under it ... .

All the sarcophagi are there only to hide the misery ..... the time to pass on the baby to the next generations who will have to quit to avoid dying of it. For these irresponsible dedé_éfeux, it is especially not question of investing in the security of the population when their debt is abysmal and their extra terrestrial economic model every day a little closer to the abyss.
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Re: EDF wants to postpone the dismantling of its nuclear reactors ... to 2100!




by moinsdewatt » 02/01/22, 23:41

ASN approves the continued dismantling of graphite reactors

AFP 27 Dec. 2021

The dismantling of EDF's graphite technology nuclear reactors, which are particularly long and difficult to deconstruct, can continue, the Nuclear Safety Authority (ASN) said on Monday in a press release.

"At the end of its analysis, ASN has no objection to the continued operation" of the six natural uranium graphite gas (UNGG) technology reactors available to France, for "dismantling or preparation operations. dismantling, "she wrote in a note accompanying a report intended for the Minister for the Ecological Transition, in charge of nuclear safety.

The six reactors are spread over the sites of Bugey (Ain), Chinon (Indre-et-Loire) and Saint-Laurent-des-Eaux (Loir-et-Cher) and were commissioned between the 60s and 70s then mostly arrested in the 1990s.

The dismantling process, which is to take place over several decades, has already made it possible to evacuate the fuel from the reactors, which "represented almost all of the risk", ASN reports.

The particularly complex deconstruction of the installations remains to be continued.

The dismantling of the reactor vessels had to be carried out "under water", recalls the authority. But EDF announced in 2016 to opt for dismantling in the air because of the "major technical difficulties" posed by the first technique.

This change in strategy has caused a "significant postponement of the end of operations date" which requires ASN to ensure "that the safety requirements are maintained over time".

The authority therefore analyzed the conclusions of the periodic review transmitted by EDF, and supplemented at its request, in order to assess the protection protocols "or the condition of the soil in the facilities", the report specifies.

The company now has one year to submit dismantling files for the Chinon reactors and requests for authorization to modify the decommissioning decrees for the other four reactors.

ASN will then check "that the decommissioning operations will be carried out under good safety and radiation protection conditions, and within controlled deadlines", she continues.


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Re: EDF wants to postpone the dismantling of its nuclear reactors ... to 2100!




by Exnihiloest » 03/01/22, 19:42

Flytox wrote:...
Well no! If the power stations were "planned" to be dismantled, it is precisely that a certain time we no longer know how to keep them waterproof without having to ablate larger and larger pieces, bulky items that cannot be handled without contaminating everything, air, water, soil, personnel, environment, etc. The carpet will never be large to hide everything under it ... .
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It's sad for our English and German neighbors (and us later), who have to buy us the power from nuclear power when their intermittent energy devices, like wind turbines, no longer produce, which comes up frequently.
But the main thing is the peace of mind of the sores, whose fragile psychology makes the very idea of ​​nuclear power untenable. : Lol:
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by Janic » 03/01/22, 19:59

asshole
But the main thing is the peace of mind of the sores, whose fragile psychology makes the very idea of ​​nuclear power untenable.
But the main thing is the peace of mind of the asshole, whose fragile psychology makes the very idea of ​​the non-nuclear unsustainable. Pov "calimero!
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 03/01/22, 20:11

Exnihiloest wrote:It's sad for our English and German neighbors (and us later), who have to buy us the power from nuclear power when their intermittent energy devices, like wind turbines, no longer produce, which comes up frequently.
But the main thing is the peace of mind of the sores, whose fragile psychology makes the very idea of ​​nuclear power untenable. : Lol:

Here, Blédina:
With an overwhelming observation: never has the French nuclear fleet functioned so badly. “Up to 17 reactors (Editor's note: out of a total of 56) have been simultaneously shut down in recent weeks, observes Thomas Veyrenc, executive director of RTE, in charge of foresight and evaluation. It is both structural, with increased maintenance due to the Great Refit (Editor's note: the major power plant renovation program), but also cyclical, linked to the pandemic which upsets the schedule, at least until 2023. " Result: the available power will not exceed 50 gigawatts (GW) in January. Either the worst performance in the history of the French nuclear fleet, notes RTE. With serious consequences on security of supply, therefore, but also on electricity prices, which have already risen sharply for several weeks.
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by jean.caissepas » 03/01/22, 20:22

I have already worked in a nuclear power plant.

They explained to me that for dismantling, the reactor vessel remained too radioactive for 100-120 years.
The "total" dismantling of a reactor will therefore take a long time.

When I was in 1st scientist, we visited the Creys-Malleville breeder reactor where they had just installed the tank cover (end of construction of the shell).
The EDF expert told us at the time that scientists would have found a way to remove radiation in 30 years, i.e. 8 years ago ...
They could therefore generate piles of unscrupulous waste ...
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 03/01/22, 20:24

Concealment, lies and denial are the three breasts of the nuclear industry (but also GMOs, pharmaceutical, chemical, petroleum).
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by Exnihiloest » 03/01/22, 20:28

But with nuclear power, the result is there: we have juice. Not like with wind power during high pressure, or solar power at night or in cloudy weather. And without CO2. Not like with coal or gas. You have to be a little simplet to hope to have the butter and the money of the butter.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 03/01/22, 20:30

Exnihiloest wrote:But with nuclear power, the result is there: we have juice. Not like with wind power during high pressure, or solar power at night or in cloudy weather. And without CO2. Not like with coal or gas. You have to be a little simplet to hope to have the butter and the money of the butter.

Here, I believed that Co2 was a blessing for the planet which would never stop growing green thanks to it. Should know, the intellectual dying ... : Mrgreen:
human-natural-disasters / the-fable-of-warming-and-the-co2-fight-t15854-130.html? # p350867
Or "when one ideology is chasing another". Crook! : Twisted:
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by Flytox » 04/01/22, 19:49

Exnihiloest wrote:But with nuclear power, the result is there: we have juice. Not like with wind power during high pressure, or solar power at night or in cloudy weather. And without CO2. Not like with coal or gas. You have to be a little simplet to hope to have the butter and the money of the butter.


It's true! in Fukushima after the various explosions, the whole country did not know what to do with its kW so much it had too much ...., and this for months ..... : roll: and this without CO2 : Mrgreen:
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