Obamot wrote:humus wrote:The missing model: at the scale of a community, at the scale of a country, at the scale of the planet?
This is the question you raise, if I understand correctly?
A common core of the type of economy on the scale of the planet seems to me necessary in the long term but there is no need to wait until the whole planet is in agreement to start. (we can wait a long time)
No not at all, my own thinking was already a question! I brought up the contradiction that arose from the search for intermediate models - those who live in the countryside and who only dream of going to the city and vice versa - in this conflicting approach, the “missing model” cannot correspond to the two groups, each with different needs! This is the difficulty ... We are on heavy trends and whose expectations collide.
So by definition as “missing model / s”These will always be missing as they are, those who conceptualize them will be in an endless race (or at best after a collapse, and not one of those that one would try to impose by therapeutic relentlessness, eh ) arrive directly at the “ideal model” BY SIMPLIFICATION it would be skipping steps ...
Because as it is, the missing model “Will always be a model that will postpone the collapse that we could do the same day until the next day” ... I don't see that a “missing model” could change the current and observed “true and correct” paradigm based on fictitious values. So until this is resolved, we will be chasing this “missing model”.
I think you must confuse “missing model” VS “ideal model” and I have modestly shown that for the ideal, it does not take the path. A simple example: at the moment, it's winter, it's very cold and we have to warm up, and already this is a very stupid reality that takes us away from the ideal model and which leaves all our forecasts on the ground. medium and long term! Will therefore force fate with the shortage of raw materials ... heating ... ( ) I'm not saying that “nothing is possible and blah-blah-blah”, the question is rather, will it happen when the people are ready for it (living with less comfort, a more balanced and fair world)
This will have a VERY STRONG impact on us over the next few decades ... And as we can see how the covid crisis is handled, if we relate this to the ideal model, it is not even in sight at the end of the tunnel ... I rather believe to “survivalism” as a first step (which will perhaps be a necessary step?) If you want to live easy (egotistically) there is an interest in living in a passive house, because the cost of fossil fuels will explode.
In fact I do not understand what you hear not missing model?
There is a desire to cross-hunt between town and country, OK
What does this missing model story do? a model of what? of society ? and if it is a model of society as much to be interested in an ideal model?
Frankly, I don't understand your concern about a missing model that would not be an ideal model.
What do you want this missing model to answer?
It lacks precision for me.
Otherwise, indeed, we are not ready for a voluntary depletion or reduction of fossils.
We know what to do, as you point out with the passive house.
yapuka ...