ITER when?

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

As you are anti-science ...

This is the best of the year. you outdo yourself, Izy!

[Remundo]

ITER a means of fighting against RC .... mouaip, very very hypothetical and not for decades (rather 1 century even), in fact it will arrive too late, even if it does happen ...

one of the means of combating RC is to immediately deploy renewable energy infrastructures interconnected globally.

[moinsdewatt]

Nuclear: the most powerful magnet in the world on its way to the Iter reactor

AFP • 07 / 09 / 2021

A weight of 1.000 tons and the size of a seven-story building: the first part of a gigantic magnet, announced as the most powerful in the world, will arrive on Thursday at the site of the experimental nuclear fusion reactor Iter, in Saint-Paul -lez-Durance (Bouches-du-Rhône).

This magnet called "Central Solenoid" constitutes a major milestone of Iter, an international program bringing together 35 countries which aims to control the production of energy from the fusion of hydrogen, as in the heart of the Sun.

Manufactured by General Atomics in California, it consists of six modules, the first of which must arrive overnight from Wednesday to Thursday at the construction site of the future reactor, launched in 2010.

Transported by sea from the United States, this first 66-tonne piece arrived at the port of Marseille and is currently on its way to the Iter site, on the banks of the Durance, about a hundred kilometers away.

The other five modules of the magnet will complete the puzzle "no later than 2024," Bernard Bigot, CEO of Iter Organization, told AFP.

Once assembled, the "Central Solenoid" will weigh nearly 1.000 tons and be 18m high.

The superconducting magnet will be placed in the core of the tokamak fusion reactor, a huge ring-shaped magnetic chamber where the temperature can reach 150 million degrees. By heating the plasma (a hydrogen gas), it allows hydrogen nuclei to collide and merge into heavier helium atoms, releasing colossal energy.

The magnetic fields make it possible to confine the plasma in the enclosure, to prevent it from coming into contact with the walls and from cooling. But the more its volume increases, the more difficult it is to stabilize it.

It is to overcome this problem of scale that the magnet will be installed: "beating heart" of the tokamak, it will produce a variable magnetic field, going from zero to 13 tesla, "ie 300.000 times the value of the earth's magnetic field", details Bernard Bigot. It will therefore be the "key element" of stabilization.

Iter plans to inject an unprecedented volume of 830 m3 of plasma. "This is the condition for the plasma current to be self-sustaining and for more energy to be recovered than it is injected", up to ten times more, according to the expert in nuclear physics.

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https://www.boursorama.com/actualite-ec ... 0d8891a1e2

[Exnihiloest]

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"It is to overcome this problem of scale that the magnet will be installed:" beating heart "of the tokamak, it will produce a variable magnetic field, going from zero to 13 tesla," ie 300.000 times the value of the earth's magnetic field " "...

It seems excessive, but not that much. Commercial neodymium magnets, as a toy, are commonly 1T today, or 23.000 times the earth's field.
It is as much its power as the large volume and the particular topology of its field which makes the prowess of the magnet. Plasma confinement is Iter's weak point. I'm not sure everything is solved, even in theory.

[izentrop]

the merger may have turned a corner last weekend at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Researchers have tested a new type of magnet to confine molten plasma and produce more energy than consumed ...
To give an idea of ​​the gain in magnetic performance of their creation, the researchers put forward an impressive ratio. Thanks to these magnets, which take the form of a long flat ribbon (about 270 km!), It is possible to achieve an equivalent magnetic field in a device forty times more compact than if magnets based on low temperature superconductors were used.

Another gain is that of energy consumption. A copper magnet requires around 200 million Watts to confine the plasma, while the one developed by MIT only asks ... 30 W. https://www.01net.com/actualites/le-mit ... 48069.html
https://trustmyscience.com/mit-annonce- ... nucleaire/

For once, it's so huge that I ask to see

... In addition it is supported by Bill Gates, it will not appeal to anti-vaxx https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/08/fusion- ... agnet.html

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

If it works, goodbye ITER, goodbye Cadarache, goodbye Areva and with billions to come for dismantling and billions screwed up!

[izentrop]

If it works, goodbye ITER, goodbye Cadarache, goodbye Areva and with billions to come for dismantling and billions screwed up!

No, it's the opposite.

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

If it works, goodbye ITER, goodbye Cadarache, goodbye Areva and with billions to come for dismantling and billions screwed up!

No, it's the opposite.

Oh yeah ? Is that so ! And the EPRs? And the power stations that have become (finally) useless? What about dismantling? What about waste? Who will attack? You me we. Already they are almost bankrupt ...

[Exnihiloest]

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Another gain is that of energy consumption. A copper magnet requires around 200 million Watts to confine the plasma, while [size = 150] the one developed by MIT requires only ...

This is the theory. This magnet is superconducting, and the energy to keep it at -250 ° C is well over 30 W, especially if it has to work alongside a plasma at millions of degrees.

If it works, goodbye ITER, goodbye Cadarache, goodbye Areva and with billions to come for dismantling and billions screwed up!

Uncultivated talk. He doesn't know anything about it, but he has to flaunt his ignorance by obviously spitting on a promising project!

This beauf did not understand that the magnet is made for all fusion power plants, including ITER, to confine the plasma. If this superconducting magnet is valid, ITER could be equipped with it.

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Magnificent demonstration, indeed! You don't know more than that, you don't help anything, but what are you drooling! Do you have kleenex?
Otherwise, if what they say is true:

“When tested, the magnet hit 20 tesla, which is a unit of measurement indicating the strength of a magnet. (Like the automaker, it is named after engineer Nikola Tesla.) For reference, 20 tesla , that's 12 times more than the magnetic field of a traditional MRI or magnetic resonance imaging. It did so while consuming only about 30 watts of energy - several orders of magnitude less than l traditional copper conductor magnet that MIT had previously tested, which used 200 million watts "

So ITER will have to change his mind and that will cost another arm !!!