Charlie Hebdo: eleven dead! Press freedom in question!

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by Obamot » 16/01/15, 13:41

sen-no-sen wrote:Child pornography photos on the computers of Chérif Kouachi and Coulibaly

In fact, in the first instance, the first time that the news was disseminated, the news that the images were decoys to hide something there, was not mentioned (either by journalists' ignorance, voluntarily or not)

sen-no-sen wrote:Several hypotheses, in order of relevance

1)the two terrorists stashed data via pedophile images in a "smokescreen", therefore unrelated to any activity of this kind ... bizarre however because this kind of site is monitored.

That was what was given as a clue then (I heard it on the TV.)

sen-no-sen wrote: 2) this case came out again to permanently soil terrorists, a manipulation strategy very often used, in order to symbolize the enemy in the form of an absolute evil

a) it is indeed a common practice, in particular by the C! A.
b) these attackers have already dirty themselves (such crimes are not "clean") even if the proportion is not comparable to the immeasurable crimes committed by the West (already 2 million dead in Iraq according to some sources and creation of a "pseudo-state" in the vacuum left, was there not a more "political" solution, without counting the irreparable psychological damage within the population. The worst being probably the destruction of the historic sites to cut populations off from their roots?);
c) and of course, we come back to it every time, the deficiency of a Palestinian rule of law, which constitutes an alibi for all kinds of challenging grounds and in particular of the movements that we know and whose effects we see;

sen-no-sen wrote:3)His images were intentionally placed at the end of making them "sing".

Hiding info in any type of image is indeed a technique for going unnoticed. So there ... I still have some reservations about the interest there would be in disseminating this type of information (may be intended for parents who have kids who ... and that parental control would discover this stuff ...)

sen-no-sen wrote:4)The facts are true, which would confirm the principle that "the greatest moralizers are the greatest perverts"

A little bit of all these points, right? : Lol:

This is one of the reasons why we must be careful not to take a position on the issue of alleged terrorism (which does not mean not taking action). If the horrors are true (proof of a great distress), the manipulations (conscious one not that they are voluntary or not, etc) are only vast attempts to rally the opinion (that all that is guided or not ).
And this, whoever is there last and whatever the motives. This is why there is no need to react, nor to take to the street (I nevertheless liked the "Je suis Charlie" walk) simply because we do not know who is behind.

I have not stopped seeing attempts to recover and instrumentalize this, whatever its ends (but the most disgust was by the politicians: because they are aware of many things and they keep quiet ...)

Finally, the most notorious was the voluntary absence of an invitation to Netanyaou (who invited himself) and the absence of Obama. It means what it means ...

But then the big "we all love each other" then recovered as best as possible Image
Ditto for autism on "big subjects" (and especially by some governments).
Mébon, it is not so much that it is cultural in the broad sense (and not at all "cult"), it is our theoretical model which wants that and for the blow, one only has the world which one has " deserved"...
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by Obamot » 16/01/15, 14:04

Christophe wrote:http://m.lesechos.fr/monde/je-t-en-veux-vraiment-charb-le-pave-dans-la-mare-d-un-ancien-de-charlie-hebdo-0204083710543.htm

Another article vigorously criticizing Charlie Hebdo ...

un "other"(?) you mean the one already published here two days ago:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post281813.html#281813

For my part, I was trying to make sense of things, but at first - even if moderately criticized - it seemed to have terribly offended you ...
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by Ahmed » 22/01/15, 11:30

We look forward to seeing you! Dede, for those opinions that contrast with the usual unanimous harping!
Some nuances could be brought, but on the whole the analysis is correct (although insufficient); In the second article, the quote from the famous phrase * of Marx is, for once, placed in the context which gives it its true meaning and not that which is usually drawn from it.

*"Religion is the opium of the people".
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by Christophe » 26/10/18, 17:00

A new photo recalls (even better) "Liberty leading the People":

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The original painting, as a reminder (well yes we use more than 100 frs note for a while)

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https://www.lemonde.fr/photo/article/20 ... 89037.html

I post here because of this one (which was still far I find original painting but if the experts say it ...)



ps: a remake of the painting should be painted today and it should be titled, "Freedom leaving the People" ... are you following me?
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by Christophe » 25/09/20, 15:31

Our tolerance promotes intolerance

https://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/ ... 391429.php

Knife attack near former Charlie Hebdo premises: what we know

Several people were attacked with a machete this Friday morning near the former premises of the satirical newspaper, the scene of an attack in January 2015, in the XNUMXth arrondissement of Paris.


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by Flytox » 06/04/21, 22:09

When it comes to always giving a damn about the environment and defending your interests with asshole methods.
Here ? We will see if our favorite lobbyists will come and defend the indefensible as usual. : Mrgreen: : Wink:

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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 06/04/21, 22:29

Flytox wrote:When it comes to always giving a damn about the environment and defending your interests with asshole methods. <<< of mafiosi, assassins
Here ? We will see if our favorite lobbyists will come and defend the indefensible as usual.

I think it is in Brittany that there is the greatest number of high ... sorry, death camps for pigs. No ?
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by Janic » 07/04/21, 08:16

I think it is in Brittany that there is the greatest number of high ... sorry, death camps for pigs. No ?
and therefore ideal support for the passage of a wild virus to humans through it, better than a Petri dish!
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by Ahmed » 07/04/21, 09:12

For it to work even better, an important element is still missing: a "wild" nature rich in biodiversity on which pig and human farms would gradually encroach ... This would be the best! : roll:
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