GO-burner doped with water that attracts the flame? (Hypnow)

[Capt_Maloche]

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Hoping that you have experienced this (long) absence ...

[gildas]

Video of a pantone boiler / water doping assembly which has the curious feature (according to the video) of "bending" the flame? A clue of an electronic charge in the reactor / catalyst?

To be linked with the autogenous water injection burner from Maloche: amelioration-burner-oil-reduction-nox-and-co-Blue Flame-t5172.html

See the principle of this burner:
https://www.econologie.com/telechargeme ... e-pantone/
https://www.econologie.com/montage-chau ... erimental/

ps: found at the same time as: understanding water injection / history-Doping al-water motor-video-HYPNOW-t10570.html

In addition to consuming 4 times less than a conventional boiler, this burner could do without a smoke evacuation duct (?) Since pollution is in principle non-existent. Diagram :

[Flytox]

Video of a pantone boiler / water doping assembly which has the curious feature (according to the video) of "bending" the flame? A clue of an electronic charge in the reactor / catalyst?

Rather a Coanda effect? There is an angle between the gas jet and the wall.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effet_Coand%C4%83

In addition to consuming 4 times less than a conventional boiler, this burner could do without a smoke exhaust duct (?) since pollution is in principle non-existent.

- Consume 4 times less, then the groundhog puts the chocolate in the aluminum foil ....
- All hydrocarbon combustions, even the more than "perfect" ones, produce CO2, from there to wanting to asphyxiate themselves voluntarily ..... everyone has their own thing!
- The principle (that the flame is blue?) Does not make it a principle that there is no associated pollution.

In the video, they talk about 75% water and 25% diesel. Yes, it can still burn ... but with a yield and a pollution and stability which is far from being the optimum.
The phenomenon (wet combustion), AMHA very similar to that shown in the video, is studied by Rémi Guillet in his book "Wet Way Combustion". (not a shareholder despite appearances ). There is a decrease and no disappearance of pollution, the same for the consumption etc ...

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In addition, the best combustion efficiency and the minimum production of pollution are not obtained with the same percentage of water ...

[gildas]

Here the intake gases are pretreated in a reactor, it is not necessarily the same as a wet combustion like Rémi Guillet ...

There are conventional oil heaters that can heat a house without a flue gas exhaust ...

[Christophe]

The phenomenon (wet combustion), AMHA very similar to that shown in the video, is studied by Rémi Guillet in his book "Wet Way Combustion". (not a shareholder despite appearances ). There is a decrease and no disappearance of pollution, the same for the consumption etc ...

According to the table you posted, it would suffice to know what% (by mass) of fuel went into particles "before" to obtain a scientific estimate of the decrease in consumption (or increase in yield) ...

A few% at most ... but that's it already!

And the% of water are given in what? Air mass? Fuel mass?

[Macro]

There are conventional oil heaters that can heat a house without a flue gas exhaust ...

Auxiliary heating cannot operate continuously in an unventilated house, danger of death .... They are also equipped with devices that stop them if the presence of too much CO2 ....

[Christophe]

.... They are also equipped with devices that stop them if the presence of too much CO2 ....

Not all of them, I bought a few years ago (less than 10) an extra basic kerosene stove, without any electronics ...

Otherwise, it is not for continuous use!

[gildas]

According to the table you posted, it would suffice to know what% (by mass) of fuel went into particles "before" to obtain a scientific estimate of the decrease in consumption (or increase in yield) ...

A few% at most ... but that's it already!

The fuel economy can be much more important .. on my briggs stratton mower doped with exhaust gas * (less than 1%) I get 60% fuel economy but in static. The engine normally runs at 3600 rpm. The annular space at the inlet valve then approximates an operation of a Pantone reactor (?).
(* Experimental setup, reproduction at your own risk)

[Flytox]

The fuel economy can be much more important .. on my briggs stratton mower doped with exhaust gas * (less than 1%) I get 60% fuel economy but in static. The engine normally runs at 3600 rpm. The annular space at the inlet valve then approaches an operation of a Pantone reactor (?).
(* Experimental setup, reproduction at your own risk)

What do you call "static"?

[Flytox]

The phenomenon (wet combustion), AMHA very similar to that shown in the video, is studied by Rémi Guillet in his book "Wet Way Combustion". (not a shareholder despite appearances ). There is a decrease and no disappearance of pollution, the same for the consumption etc ...

According to the table you posted, it would suffice to know what% (by mass) of fuel went into particles "before" to obtain a scientific estimate of the decrease in consumption (or increase in yield) ...

A few% at most ... but that's it already!

And the% of water are given in what? Air mass? Fuel mass?

The passage does not speak exactly of the same thing / installation etc ..., difficult to get out of it data usable directly for a Pantonizing thing. But if you want to use its calculation assumptions to adapt them to our case, you are free. I can even send you the book ...