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Water injection in thermal engines and the famous "pantone engine". General informations. Press clippings and videos. Understanding and scientific explanations on the injection of water into engines: ideas for assemblies, studies, physico-chemical analyzes.
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by Other » 25/12/06, 16:04

Hello Camel1

I understand that you want to close the subject GV ..
But you can open another one on Mercedes, it would be interesting to follow the evolution of consumption on this vehicle.

To know if the figures are repetitive (it's not always my case)
And especially to know if on the small cummulated journeys we arrive at the results to be interesting, because the average user of a car is this kind of conduct that it does.

There is a difference of 1 to 1,5 liters with panton versus city and versus long journey, it is directly related to the numbers of cold start!
On the 300TD turbo I arrive at 6,5 in great distance and it varies from 7,5L to 8L on the city (route of 10km, 20km, sometimes 3 km, shopping)

Andre
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by camel1 » 26/12/06, 00:08

Hi Andrew!

Andre wrote:Hello Camel1

I understand that you want to close the subject GV ..
But you can open another one on Mercedes, it would be interesting to follow the evolution of consumption on this vehicle.

Andre


Ben ... close a subject is not to put the key under the door! : Lol:
Of course, when this is the time, I would open a thread on the merco, with a follow-up of the results of the next-tests ...

The problem, as always, is that you have to ride, and that it takes time and circles ... so, patience (you know a radius, in this matter : Wink: )

To respond to Antoinet111, on the 205, same proto and same results for now (pending the next version, in 2007 ...)

By cons, I confirm that the GV works well, even by -3 ° C today, and tap water!

See you soon !

Michel
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by antoinet111 » 26/12/06, 10:17

Thank you for your answer.

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by Toine » 12/01/07, 13:10

Hi all and thank you for your efforts.

I have not read all the posts.

But for a gasoline engine, did anyone try to make sure that the fresh air coming to the reactor is simply the air / vapor mixture of post-carb gasoline?
This will make it possible to cold start and to make the reactor operational when the temperature rises.

And the ideal will be an adjustment of the richness of the intake gases as a function of the efficiency of the reactor or its temperature because the two are linked, right?

I have a rodeo (R4 GTL engine) that I will use cleanly and courament.
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by Other » 12/01/07, 19:20

Hello,
All 100% panton mounts work like this
The small motor mowers ect.
And even my 3,8 liter gasoline engine when I feed it to diesel on the highway .. I cut the fuel injection,
I can also fuel the reactor in gasoline.

The majority share a variant of the panton which is doping with water.
But it is not the (true panton)

Andre
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by PITMIX » 12/01/07, 21:24

Ahhh : Cheesy: The adjustment of the richness according to the reactor ....
This is a subject I like.

André gave me a very interesting idea but I have not had time to test it yet.
That of controlling the wealth through a lambda sensor as on a car injection, and adjust a small auxiliary air valve directly connect to the intake manifold to slightly deplete the mixture.
This in the case where the reactor is used in water doping with the steam that passes through the carburetor.
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by Other » 19/01/07, 22:47

Hello
Another question for Michel
In tests the clamping butterfly was open to 100% I guess was this burden.
Because I have not yet succeeded to prove to me a loss of efficiency with partial clamping at mid load or low load
we try to learn about the effect of clamping on the bench
it'll éclaircire some theories that are true on a standard engine with a panton because you have to think can be differrement.
Why choose 3000 rpm the most economical place it is on the top of the flat curve of the couple and I think it is below 3000 rpm the results may be more spectular
Full injection at maximum torque would be preferable ..

Andre
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