Coronavirus, who or what and why? What origin?

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

You forgot my bolding ^^

You have the hand to do it right?

We can scaffold all the hypotheses from an artificial creation.
Does China have the antidote?
Did she have it?
Could it be a multi-cycle thing with again a devastating spring or winter.
A terrible ebola style evolution?
Or just a weakening of the planet for the benefit of China?

Anyway full of unanswered questions

[Christophe]

As long as a specialist, with solid bases in genetics, has not analyzed the substance of this publication, it is better not to speculate ...

[Christophe]

You forgot my bolding ^^

You have the hand to do it right?

It is FACT

[izentrop]

If the opinion of honest specialists interests Did the coronavirus escape from a laboratory?

[Obamot]

If the opinion of honest specialists interests Did the coronavirus escape from a laboratory?

Still in the fallacy of insinuation (and quite perverse ...)

[Christophe]

If the opinion of honest specialists interests Did the coronavirus escape from a laboratory?

Shit ... pure intox, copy / paste from the establishment, what to think dictated by the powers that be ... as usual with the zététicienSS ... whose only job is to make copy pasted ... without taking any risk ...

The article does not respond to the above publication anyway since it is older ...

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Here it will please Vetus

"The question of the origin of SARS-CoV-2 arises seriously"

Almost a year after the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus was identified, researchers still have not determined how it may have been transmitted to humans. Virologist Étienne Decroly takes stock of the various hypotheses, including that of the accidental escape of a laboratory.

[VetusLignum]

Here it will please Vetus

"The question of the origin of SARS-CoV-2 arises seriously"

Almost a year after the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus was identified, researchers still have not determined how it may have been transmitted to humans. Virologist Étienne Decroly takes stock of the various hypotheses, including that of the accidental escape of a laboratory.

Yes, you got me a few minutes ahead of me.
It's good to see that the lines are finally moving.

[VetusLignum]

Here it will please Vetus

"The question of the origin of SARS-CoV-2 arises seriously"

Almost a year after the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus was identified, researchers still have not determined how it may have been transmitted to humans. Virologist Étienne Decroly takes stock of the various hypotheses, including that of the accidental escape of a laboratory.

Yes, you got me a few minutes ahead of me.
It's good to see that the lines are finally moving.

On the other hand, I do not agree with the criticism that this article makes of Montagnier / Perez's thesis. The article says:

Their results show that three of the four insertions observed in SARS-CoV-2 are each found in older strains of coronavirus. [...] The 4th insertion remains which reveals a furin proteolysis site in SARS-CoV-2 absent in the rest of the SARS-CoV family. It cannot therefore be ruled out that this insertion results from experiments aimed at allowing an animal virus to pass the species barrier to humans, since it is well known that this type of insertion plays a key role in the spread of many viruses in humans.

Now, it seems to me that Montagnier / Perez say roughly the same thing:

it appears that 14 of the 18 HIV / SIV EIE existed - already - from the first human SARS genomes that appeared in China around 2003. However, a novel long region of around 225 nucleotides, less than 1% of the genome, appears to us to have been inserted: This region is completely absent in all SARS genomes, whereas it is present and 100% homologous for all COVID-19 genomes listed in NCBI
https://zenodo.org/record/3975578#.X5i5mu3LfIU

Basically, and even though there is an inconsistency in the numbers, Montagnier / Perez do not deny that some of these insertions were already present on older strains of coronavirus. In fact, I think his criticism of Montagnier / Perez is not about their thesis, but about the popularizations / simplifications that have been made of them.

[izentrop]

If the opinion of honest specialists interests Did the coronavirus escape from a laboratory?

Shit ... pure intox, copy / paste from the establishment, what to think dictated by the powers that be ... as usual with the zététicienSS ... whose only job is to make copy pasted ... without taking any risk ...

It's your antiscience side