Covid and Didier Raoult (supporter of hydroxychloroquine): analyzes on the pandemic

[Obamot]

I thought it was the countries of the south that counted the consequences of Covid in a fanciful way.

And yet Great Britain

Revision downward in deaths with 5300 fewer.
Coronavirus in UK: death toll drops following new counting method


Downward revision of -1,308,071 tests
Covid-19 testing data: methodology notes

Thin with us too ???
Damn me, who thought that it was only in the sub continents that this epidemic was badly counted ...

Covid-19: these two flaws that skew the real number of new cases in Paris


All that remains is to take into account the current 20/30 million tourists of the Côte d'Azur to affirm that the residents of the PACA region are all in the process of becoming positive..

It will change us a bit, there are so many elements NEGATIVE (and bounded) here

[VetusLignum]

A study which shows that the HCQ + AZI treatment over 5 days in patients without contraindications does not significantly prolong the QT interval.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3620305288

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

A study which shows that the HCQ + AZI treatment over 5 days in patients without contraindications does not significantly prolong the QT interval.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3620305288

Don't worry, they know it perfectly .... that hydroxychloroquine does not present any particular danger in controlled use.
And that in case of contraindication the patient simply does not receive it.

Banal troll technique is just to wrap up and redo the debate of the month of April and go around in circles instead of moving forward ...

[izentrop]

What we do know is that an observational study not confirmed by a randomized clinical study is not worth a rabbit fart.

[ABC2019]

A study which shows that the HCQ + AZI treatment over 5 days in patients without contraindications does not significantly prolong the QT interval.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3620305288

Don't worry, they know it perfectly .... that hydroxychloroquine does not present any particular danger in controlled use.
And that in case of contraindication the patient simply does not receive it.

Banal troll technique is just to wrap up and redo the debate of the month of April and go around in circles instead of moving forward ...

indeed, we are not going around in circles, no one has yet demonstrated that there is an HCQ + AZT dose or anything of the sort that is both effective in preventing deaths from Covid 19 without being toxic, and given how long this story lasts, it is very likely that there is not. How long do you plan to stick to the HCQ for?

It seems obvious that the stakes of covid-19 will not be on a miracle drug, but on our ability to control contagion without destroying the economy and social relations, and on the development or not of a vaccine. Discussions about miracle molecules are becoming more and more surreal ...

[Obamot]

What we do know is that an observational study not confirmed by a randomized clinical study is not worth a rabbit fart.

What we know is that a randomized clinical study (and all the criteria you want) not done according to exactly the same protocol and criteria required and in accordance with the observational study, is not worth a rabbit fart.

To date and to our knowledge, whenever the required conditions / elements were present, all studies have shown good results with early use at the required doses (therefore non-toxic) of HCQ + AZT (+ zinc + vitamin D and C, or other, depending on ...) better than other treatment options (the panoply of which struggles to prevent the subjects treated from going into the “intensive care” box, since this is what must be avoided at all costs ...) and therefore persisting against this type of treatment which works very well, has no effect as long as after a few prescriptions, the practitioners are not fooled , they see very clearly that on the one hand they reduce the duration of treatment, less impacting for the patients, and at the same time save lives (without mortgaging other therapies / care required for a possible continuation).

The discussions about miracle molecules like Remdesivir - which has never shown a decrease in lethality following its use, in ANY study - are becoming more and more surreal ...

[pedrodelavega]

A study which shows that the HCQ + AZI treatment over 5 days in patients without contraindications does not significantly prolong the QT interval.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3620305288

Out of 100 patients.
Another study gives information to the contrary:
https://www.univadis.fr/viewarticle/cov ... ine-719954
+ pharmacovigilance feedback ( https://www.prescrire.org/Fr/203/1845/5 ... tails.aspx // https://www.ouest-france.fr/sante/virus ... es-6805401 // https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... ID-19.html )

As I said: The risk is undoubtedly low but if the benefit is zero, as the RCTs and the majority of the scientific community & learned society seem to confirm, it is important not to prescribe.

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

What we do know is that an observational study not confirmed by a randomized clinical study is not worth a rabbit fart.

A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical study on patients with moderate to severe forms of Covid introduces 1 new element in multi-therapy: colchiquine

Apart from the treatment institutional (note the term that we could almost translate now as “basic”) for the Covid, that is to say hydroxychloroquine + azythromicine, they added colchiquine.

Beneficial effects of colchicine for moderate to severe Covid-19: an interim analysis of a randomized, double-blinded, placebo controlled clinical trial

[pedrodelavega]

edit by Remundo

They are too strongS !!!!
New hcq + azt study

moved here : health-pollution-prevention / the-coronavirus-cons-t16359-1140.html # p407832

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Do you have any details on the origin and condition of the patients mentioned in this pseudo study as well as the stage of Covid (phase 1 or 2) they were at when they were given hydroxychloroquine?

More information is available in the article linked in the tweet.

I can not find them.
If you have them it is gladly

Haven't you found them?
In conclusion, a bogus study?
As the other would say not worth a rabbit fart