Ahmed wrote:...
I do not understand your obstinacy in confusing duration in history and making history.
Our world today has not been shaped by 50 years of hunter-gatherers, however long it takes. It has become what it is from the agricultural revolution, then above all from the scientific revolution.
But whatever. In my first post here I answered questions about how to get out of the climate and ecological crisis. This crisis stems from excessive consumption of renewable resources. Can we influence this consumption by changing the system? Without a doubt ; but I think it can only influence a little. Because beyond the systems, there are men, and men, they are not easily changed; I gave you the example of the Soviet empire which wanted to create a new man, and which above all created gulags.
I see that men always want more. When they have a lot, they want more and waste it. When they have little they dream of having the means to have a little more; the only obstacle is precisely not having the means, which can happen in very poor regions. In this case they may be resigned, while waiting, but the dreams and the envy remain.
Do you have an example of a company where this is not the case? Where men who already have the basics stop working to take a nap. To avoid "anachronistic retro-projection bias", let's limit ourselves to the past century, this is a sufficient sample.
In short, will we one day see, massively, people who remain sober when they have the means to "have fun"? While we can see that a rich country like France is not even aware of being rich and is still asking for growth. We even tend, faced with a hermit monk, to consider this sobriety as abnormal, "unnatural", as it seems natural to us to consume as much as possible as long as we have the means.
You have fun calling me a Liberal-realist. You probably have a flexible definition of liberalism so that it can include someone like me who defends both GMOs and a decrease in the purchasing power of developed countries - but admitting to being unable to imagine how to organize such decrease without economic collapse and without revolt.
I am aware that understanding my position requires flexibility; try.
Otherwise try something other than liberal.
Our world today has seen its destruction really begin with sedentarization and agriculture.
