China prohibits the import of 24 types of waste and creates panic!

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by chatelot16 » 11/02/18, 19:00

Ahmed wrote:This is a point that I emphasized at the beginning of this thread.
The treatment of this waste is not, fundamentally a technical problem (for a good part), but economic: do you think it is possible to succeed where the Chinese give up? :D

if the materials of recovery had a value, well salable for everyone, we would not mix everything and there would be no work to sort out what we mixed ... the mixtures make the work unnecessarily dirty and dangerous

alas the way of recycling worthless kills recovery activities ... those who have used equipment take no precaution to facilitate its recovery since it has no value

it's money that commands! in order to organize the recovery, we must give a positive value to all the recoverable matter ... when the materials have a value that is even low, those who are too rich to tire themselves to recuperate themselves can benefit those who have more time and less money

alas currently is the world upside down! Well-meaning people believe they are doing a good deed by putting their used thing in a garbage disposal that consumes public money to mix everything and forbid the recovery by those who have time to do so.

other bug of the current regulation: all the recycling activity is considered as dirty, classified establishment with obligations of measurer ... thus one recovers not one mixes all to get rid
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by chatelot16 » 11/02/18, 19:01

chatelot16 wrote:
Ahmed wrote:This is a point that I emphasized at the beginning of this thread.
The treatment of this waste is not, fundamentally a technical problem (for a good part), but economic: do you think it is possible to succeed where the Chinese give up? :D

if the materials of recovery had a value, well salable for everyone, we would not mix everything and there would be no work to sort out what we mixed ... the mixtures make the work unnecessarily dirty and dangerous

alas the way of recycling worthless kills recovery activities ... those who have used equipment take no precaution to facilitate its recovery since it has no value

it's money that commands! in order to organize the recovery, we must give a positive value to all the recoverable matter ... when the materials have a value that is even low, those who are too rich to tire themselves to recuperate themselves can benefit those who have more time and less money

alas currently is the world upside down! Well-meaning people believe they are doing a good deed by putting their used thing in a garbage disposal that consumes public money to mix everything and forbid the recovery by those who have time to do so.

other bug of the current regulation: all the activity of recycling is considered as dirty, establishment classified with obligations of measurer ... so we do not recoupère we mix everything to get rid
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Re: China prohibits the import of 24 types of waste and created panic!




by Ahmed » 11/02/18, 21:28

There is a limit to the recovery which is the cost of mining materials. From this point of view, recycling can be considered as more of a service that avoids the accumulation of some of the waste and it is costly to the community, as you specify ...
What is unfortunate, as you also mention it, is that the reuse is generally discouraged, in spite of a timid evolution towards the ressourceries.

On a very modest scale, I get the branches of the neighborhood, which is always a little less waste to transport water and air by truck ...

@ Christophe: if you could correct the title by replacing "created" by "created", that would be good. : Oops:
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by Christophe » 18/09/19, 19:28

A known consequence: Waste-and-recycling / scandal-the-non-recycling-of-plastic-en-Belgium-and-addition-t16121.html

This concerns Belgium (because some have investigated) but do not be afraid: all Western countries do the same! : Cheesy:
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by moinsdewatt » 29/11/20, 14:36

It hardens even more:

The news could not have not reached the ears of the French economic press, here it is:


China to ban waste imports completely from 2021

By AFP | 27/11/2020

The country, which no longer wants to be the trash of the planet, began in 2018 to close its doors to foreign waste, forcing some American and European recycling companies to find alternative solutions.

China will ban the importation of the last types of solid waste still authorized in the country from January 1, 2021, marking the epilogue of a policy launched three years ago, state media announced Friday.

Anxious to no longer be the trash of the planet, the Asian giant began in January 2018 to close its doors to foreign waste, causing an accumulation of materials to be recycled in rich countries.

Progressive bans

China has gradually banned, over the months, the import of different types of plastics, automotive parts, paper, textiles, and scrap steel or wood.

"Any import of solid waste, by any means whatsoever, will now be prohibited," said a note from the authorities, quoted this Friday by the New China news agency.

"The announcement will take effect from January 1, 2021," adds the text dated Tuesday and published jointly by the Ministries of Environment and Trade, Customs and the National Economic Planning Commission (NDRC).

This environmental policy has been popular in China since its inception. But it caused great difficulties for some American and European recycling companies, forced to store waste while awaiting a solution.

The waste exported to the Asian country had been bought for decades by local companies, who cleaned, crushed and transformed it into raw materials for industrialists.


https://www.latribune.fr/economie/inter ... 63522.html
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by Janic » 29/11/20, 14:53

To each his own shit! except that this waste will move from China to India and especially Africa. And as this waste will be on their country, it will be them who will be considered the real polluters and we can continue to play the virtuous :(
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