The city car of the future from the past: Messerschmitt KR

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by I Citro » 08/10/13, 23:16

The engine is located at the back between the wheels (this is a propulsion but we need to know as his behavior does not betray it).
Regarding the habitability, I find it superior to that of my 106 which are however 40cm longer (and what about the short version that measures less than 2,90m ...).

The accessibility is excellent on board by the sides 2 for the driver in the center position, even in very narrow entroits thanks to very ingenious sliding doors.
However, modularity and improved, particularly because of AR fixed seats ...

The MIA also has an ABS body, hopefully better than Mehari which became brittle with time.
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by chatelot16 » 08/10/13, 23:41

citro wrote:The engine is at the back between the wheels (it is a propulsion but it must be known as its behavior does not betray it)


front-wheel drive is a quality to a classic car that has a big engine in the front

what is bad is the big engine in front and the propulsion behind

for an electric car you can start the weight as you want, and the propulsion has no drawback, and even the advantage of avoiding gimbal in the direction: so allow a huge steering angle
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by I Citro » 09/10/13, 08:56

: Arrowu: I confirm its turning radius is super short.
I made a half laps on roads that I did not expect.
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by BobFuck » 09/10/13, 09:09

citro wrote:
Christophe wrote:It is true that it is rather fashionable Urban SUV (m # of €) as mini city cars ...
I say and repeat, urban car is nonsense!
Even a small car is not welcome in the city because it occupies too much space.


Amen.

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Or limit a twizy: on a normal parking space, you put in 3 ...

As I have done several times to bring back 2 10 packets of XNUMX kg of mortar by bike: I was too lazy to wear them from my car (still parked) until the construction site.
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by Christophe » 09/10/13, 17:43

BobFuck wrote:Or limit a twizy: on a normal parking space, you put in 3 ...


It was a (the) commercial argument to the launch of the smart: 2 cars in one place ...

But I have never seen 2 smart parked together on one parking space!

For the Twizy will be probably the same ...
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by BobFuck » 09/10/13, 19:03

> I have never seen 2 smart parked
> together on one parking space!

This is because there are finally very few ...

Come on, let's be crazy, it could be a very hard thing for French: look how they do in other countries ...

Video No. 1

In the first minute, I count 30 bikes, so a rate of 1800 vehicles / hour. With one person per car, that kind of flow corresponds roughly to the saturation level of an avenue two-lane one-way with traffic lights ... and as seen on the video, it is far from the cap. ..

Video No. 2

Sure, it stinks and makes noise, but in a few years these scooters are electric, so problem solved. Contrary to what one might think circulate in there by scooter (or bike with a gas mask, so I tested both) is not really dangerous, it rolls to 20-30 the largest maximum time in straight lines, most machines are wrecks unable to go faster anyway ... off peak hours it runs great ... except by car of course ...

When the parking problem, we put more 5 on a car seat, but it must still turn a bit to park scoot so there : Mrgreen:


The commonalities between these two videos: in both cases there are infrastructures, for example the Taiwanese have special lines, scooters tunnels, scooter lights, etc.

Strangely they all dream of having a car (status symbol). Well obviously, replace scooters by cars, they tried in South Korea (it seems it's called growth) and therefore, the result enough talking! ...

The "city car" is a concept for a spoiled Westerner * who does not consider moving for a single second without his sheet metal bubble, even if it means losing 1 hour of his life morning and evening every day in traffic jams ...

(Or Western wanabee as Korean)
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Re: The city car of the future of the past: Messerschmitt KR




by Christophe » 19/01/19, 14:05

A restoration of a KR200 in pictures:



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Re: The city car of the future of the past: Messerschmitt KR




by Christophe » 05/08/19, 12:06

Messerchmitt is back and it's heavy!

I present to you the Messerschmitt KR25-E view at the Spezi lounge (see http://www.salonduvelospecial.com/ ) which was held at the end of April - sorry for the delay ...

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It is a vehicle with human propulsion and electric assistance (fortunately because it is rather heavy in design) ... there are 3 versions.

a) The KR25 single-seat version with bio-electric propulsion (human + assistance) bridled at 25 km / h and therefore entering the VEA class (no insurance, no license plate ... a priori)

b) The KR45 single seat version with bio-electric propulsion and limited to 45 km / h (which makes it pass in class tricycle / scooter with registration and insurance since it is not any more a bicycle or a trike not requiring paper or insurance.

c) The KR200 two-seater version without human propulsion, i.e. a 100% electric vehicle = a well-designed light electric car like the smera (see here: new-transport / car-the-future-of-t6803-2990.html # p333139 )

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