Social Security Independents, RSI: Welcome to hell!

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Social Security Independents, RSI: Welcome to hell!




by Christophe » 13/06/16, 15:30

About the RSI, Social Regime of the Self-Employed, new hell of the self-employed (fortunately there are other systems ...):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtbmAUGJ8qM

Also interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_FH1n8pbWA
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by Christophe » 13/06/16, 15:48

What does RSI finance?
Answer here: https://youtu.be/LtbmAUGJ8qM?t=4m57s

: Shock: : Shock: : Shock:

Its functioning and controversies: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9gi ... _en_France

According to French Prime Minister Manuel Valls, "the RSI is a disaster".


Source: http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/video/ ... 84945.html

Well, what are they waiting for to reform it? 1M more unemployed? Ah well, the independents at the RSI do not have the right to unemployment !!! : Evil:
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by Christophe » 13/06/16, 16:03

I hallucinate, the video says that the RSI is a private social protection organization (as was URSAFF something I did not know ...) with a public service mission ...it is nothing other than the (American-style) privatization of social security !!

https://youtu.be/LtbmAUGJ8qM?t=6m37s
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by Capt_Maloche » 13/06/16, 16:17

Those who want to leave must go to SAS :-)
Personally I just created an LLC affiliated to the RSI, but it is not for a trade
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by Did67 » 13/06/16, 17:02

Christophe wrote:I hallucinate, the video says that the RSI is a private social protection organization (as was URSAFF something I did not know ...) with a public service mission ...it is nothing other than the (American-style) privatization of social security !!



I hadn't seen it at the time. So I correct some confusion:

- a mutual insurance company is an organization governed by private law, as well as an association of the 1901 law type (non-profit associations); in law, private does not mean "with the objective of profit"! It's just that it does not belong, by nature, to the sphere of public bodies (roughly "which is the state, its bodies and communities) ...

- American-style social security is (rather was, until Obamat's small advances) an absence of social security; we therefore take out insurance with a private company, just as we insure our car [or we do not insure ourselves and we sell our house when we are treated for a heart attack!]; Ditto for retirement: savings are entrusted to a "pension fund", which must make it grow [hence their requirements in terms of profitability when they take control of a company, to the detriment of staff remuneration; it's really against each other; what they have, we will not have! ...] and we "pump" into it when we are retired ...

- there are therefore no "charges", net salaries comparable to our gross salaries (except that we "pay" after all these insurances, or not, instead of having "mandatory" withdrawals)

- I would have no difficulty in demonstrating that in such a system, it is better to be rich and in good health, than poor and sick ... But that, all those who are against the "charges" forget it ...

To return to the subject, the status of the RSI funds is ...... unclear!

https://www.rsi.fr/fileadmin/mediathequ ... 012_03.pdf

https://www.contrepoints.org/2014/12/18 ... rocheblave
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Re: Social Security of Independents, RSI: welcome to hell!




by chatelot16 » 13/06/16, 20:09

the RSI is an anti social system which rackets small craftsmen and traders and is very favorable to large ones

the good solution to avoid it is to create companies in SAS or SASU to be subject to the general system of social security, charge to be paid proportional to the salary month by month ... the months where there is no salary there is no charge to pay ... but when you want to create a company that advises to make a sarl to pay the RSI? the big traders and craftsmen of the chambers of commerce and trades who profit from the RSI, because for this system to be favorable to the big ones, small ones have to pay ... entrusting the chamber of commerce with advice on setting up a business is nonsense : the chamber of commerce is commanded by people in place who do not want to again

flee the status submitted to the RSI ... made of SAS or SASU

this problem is serious ... the state has always despised small artisans and traders ... I am 57 years old and when I was little my father, an artisan, already had the same kind of problem
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