Air inlet via the contour of the roller shutter box

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by Philippe Schutt » 17/02/12, 19:23

The famous air inlet bars on the shutter boxes.
In this case, one can also wonder if it is really useful to caulk the box.
As noted arialecastor all the insulation lining is ventilated. You noticed the air coming out of the sockets. Do you also have cold air coming out from under the plinths of the exterior walls?
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by GreG2MarS13 » 17/02/12, 20:27

Good evening Philippe,

nothing by putting my hand on the plinths sides taken where it leaks but by putting my hand I felt air coming from below the window frame
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by Philippe Schutt » 18/02/12, 13:04

As much as possible, spaces should be found between the joinery and the exterior masonry. But it is often impossible, jump to dismantle all the doors and windows and put them back properly. So we just grout on the inside.
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by dedeleco » 18/02/12, 13:48

I wanted to know if it was normal on this kind of installation knowing that it is a residence just built?

It's scandalous on a new building from 2011 or 2012 !!!
It is a typical pig job from the 1950s to 1960s, not from 2012 !!

It is absolutely necessary to put the promoter in a registered letter to urgently correct all these incredible faults, and bring them to trial, because your apartment loses a good part of its value, given the heat losses and the heating expenses, because you have an apartment from the 50s (like a thermal colander hutch) and not modern.
It is not up to you to correct all of these errors.

Ask your home insurance (multi-risk) to play the defense and appeal with expertise and legal action; (referred) if they do not correct very quickly.
You will win because they did not respect the standards and the advice of installation.

I did this in the past for poor workmanship and the architect's insurance had to pay for his mistakes.
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by GreG2MarS13 » 23/05/12, 00:00

Hello,

I will keep you posted after several months of waiting. By harassing a little on the phone, I finally received the visit of a few people.

I thought that a diagnosis was going to be made by an insulation professional, not at all I realized that it was the project manager, an electrician, and the manager promoter who came to check, before to involve someone and especially to defend that everything was normal.

The prime contractor barely listened and looked at where the leaks came from and remained on his idea that everything was normal in compliance with the standards, that the company took care of 60% insulation in the region ( to make me believe that I could have confidence), that the internal blockages (missing in certain places around the trunks and windows while the air passes by there) did not assure in any case an insulation and that the insulation was ensured from the outside, that even if we changed the trunks and the windows it would be the same (when it was not what I was asking), that this type of trunk there was just clipped and it was normal that they did not provide good insulation. He also proposed to me to lower the electricity bill to invest in more economical heaters.

the manager-promoter told me that it is also because I was exposed west therefore more exposed to the wind.

at the end we disagreed, so I started to turn on the hood fully (we saw the curtain swell down (air coming from under the window) then said that I would make a diagnosis myself and there she said ok we will send someone.

Well I still don't trust, if it is still someone who is wicked who will come ... I would like to make a real diagnosis questioning the fact that the standard is not respected, do you have any ideas please so that i have real proof? for it was a bit against my word against theirs to explain to them that it was colder than normal.

Thank you in advance
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by dedeleco » 23/05/12, 02:21

It seemed to me that I had given the principle to follow:

dedeleco wrote:
I wanted to know if it was normal on this kind of installation knowing that it is a residence just built?

It's scandalous on a new building from 2011 or 2012 !!!
It is a typical pig job from the 1950s to 1960s, not from 2012 !!

It is absolutely necessary to put the promoter in a registered letter to urgently correct all these incredible faults, and bring them to trial, because your apartment loses a good part of its value, given the heat losses and the heating expenses, because you have an apartment from the 50s (like a thermal colander hutch) and not modern.
It is not up to you to correct all of these errors.

Ask your home insurance (multi-risk) to play the defense and appeal with expertise and legal action; (referred) if they do not correct very quickly.
You will win because they did not respect the standards and the advice of installation.

I did this in the past for poor workmanship and the architect's insurance had to pay for his mistakes.


Otherwise, without an insurance expert, where judicial with lawyers, they will do nothing, leading you by boat, waiting since February for late spring to late May, not cold, to come see a cold problem !!!
And you only have one year (sometimes 2 years) to have the perfect completion, so take action, registered letter with formal notice, your insurance, expert in extreme cold, lawyer and justice, very quickly, because the deadlines are short for the perfect completion, according to standards.

You have shown that the air passes so the cold is assured, you have your winter heating bills, the standards exist, and therefore they prove your heating expenses. You can have a DPE made which will ascertain this reality. apartment D or E in heating !!

They only act stuck, thoroughly, therefore letter recommended firm, demonstrative and determined. If possible to several neighbors who have the same problem. If they do not understand, the insurance then legal action with lawyers must fall on them quickly, as I did in the past, for 2 real estate transactions 30 years apart !!
You will win and all your expenses will be paid, as for me with also compensation for disturbance of enjoyment.
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by elephant » 23/05/12, 10:43

+1 on registered letters (possibly with acknowledgment of receipt)

1) it's serious, knowing the uses and not laughing

2) but above all it is considered as proof in court of the CERTAIN DATE.

Another tip: when "someone" comes to see.

1) register his name and quality (ask for his card)

2) send the same day or the next day a report of his declarations and possible promises, always by registered post.

- it makes the other party extremely uncomfortable. She will see that you have no intention of laughing.
- if the other party does not agree, they will let you know, and presto, you file

Do not underestimate the performance guarantee effect: very often, the promoter does not pay the last 10% to the supplier until a year or two later and can sometimes blackmail on any work in progress.

Do not be afraid to invest in a few letters from a lawyer: it is not very expensive and the lawyer can always put forward what the negligence will cost the opposing party. (sometimes defending oneself costs more than correcting)

In short, three watchwords: file, file and more file!

And in your place .... I would go and see how it is with the neighbors : Mrgreen:
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by dedeleco » 23/05/12, 15:55

Listen to Elephant and all of us.
Also, learn about the laws, specific regulations (internet, magazines and associations of consumers, insurance, experts and specialists), to respect the laws and warn the opponents, with precise and indisputable technical terms.

Did you receive the work in the forms ??
A bailiff's report of the various disorders is essential legally, what I had done, (no need for a lawyer, with or without an expert) before everything else, because the house was filling with rain water and the bailiff's report allows us to prove the reality of this water, legally, even well after, by great drought (heat wave of 2003, in my case, after the winter of 2002-2003, full of water !!) and therefore try to make note by bailiff the air leaks and the cold (what I would have done for you this winter).

And as they were blocked, to drag with lies, the insurance of the architect and the mason had to pay full pot, more than 25% of the renovation of the house, by decision of the court !!

You can have quotes made by valid companies to carry out the necessary repairs, which the promoter is unable to make, quotes which are essential in court to justify your damage.

I even had my legal expert who asked such quotes from companies, to copy them for the judge, instead of doing his job !!!
So you save time, because you only have one to two years to complete the completion work in court.

If the insulation faults are serious, inadmissible heating bills, this is the ten-year guarantee, for non-compliance with the insulation standards, at least that of 2005, to be read on econology.
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