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by gfgh64 » 04/04/25, 19:53

I just got an old diesel generator, Hawker Siddeley engine and I have no idea how to start it up.

To begin with, I would like to know if anyone knows these old cuckoo clocks.
I managed to get it to start by bypassing the starter and using a little brake cleaner, but it doesn't suck up fuel and stalls.

I can't find any documentation on the internet

the beast!!!
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by gfgh64 » 04/04/25, 19:58

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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 04/04/25, 20:15

If fuel isn't reaching the combustion chamber, there may be air in the system. Or if there is a pump, it may be dead.
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by Christophe » 04/04/25, 20:32

Nice pressure cooker air filter!!! I've never seen such a monstrous thing for such a small engine of not even 10 hp! : Mrgreen:
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by sicetaitsimple » 04/04/25, 20:49

Is there a starter spark plug?
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by Christophe » 04/04/25, 20:50

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:Or if there is a pump, it may be dead.


There's definitely a pump, it's a diesel...

Procedure: disassemble the injector (or them if not single cylinder) and try to start and see if it sprays...this will possibly allow the pump to be properly primed...
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by Ahmed » 04/04/25, 21:07

Before removing the injector(s), loosen one slightly and turn it to expel the air: depending on the type of engine, a tiny air bubble may be enough to prevent it from starting.
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by gfgh64 » 04/04/25, 21:48

Thank you for your answers, it is a single cylinder which has not been used for several years, so the air bubble is possible,
I had filled the filter to the brim and when I started it with the bomb it ran for about thirty seconds so if tomorrow the filter is not full, it is because I have an air intake in the filter,
in photo four, on the red part there is a lever, when it is to the right, I have no compression I moved them as in the photo and there I was able to start, I wonder if there would not be another lever, handle or other to operate for starting
As I have the bad habit of fiddling with everything and putting my fingers everywhere, and often doing stupid things, I come fishing for information first.
I will take close-up photos of the wires that arrive at the starter tomorrow, one detail intrigues me
for the pump, I think it is in photo 4 too, by zooming in I just saw that the big bolt on the left looks like a bleeder!!!
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by Christophe » 04/04/25, 22:06

You really should avoid running a diesel pump with air or worse, empty, because it is the fuel that lubricates it!

Well, it's pretty robust as old technology, but don't insist with the star-pilot before having dismantled the circuit or the injector...in order to expel the air or to have primed the pump...

Is there a pre-priming pump? I assume not...in this case you have to re-prime the diesel pump...you will find the procedure on YouTube...all old diesels are the same...
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Re: Stanford power plant electro group restarted




by Flytox » 05/04/25, 00:46

At the risk of stating the obvious :P .
I suppose that for this to work you need a diesel tank with a vent, a pump that draws from it and pumps it back to your diesel filter and the return from the injector goes back to the tank. (The photos don't show all this). If there is no diesel circulation, there is no bleeding possible.

Usually the method looks like:
- Use diesel that isn't 20 years old. (There's always water in it...)
- The engine is started using the starter motor with the internal diesel pump or "external" diesel pump to:
- start by bleeding the diesel filter (bleed screw on top). Close the bleeder. (very important sealing, 20-year-old gaskets should be avoided)
- bleed the injection pump by loosening the diesel outlet pipe to the injector. Tighten securely afterward.
- Check that the injector return is spitting something out (at the beginning, preferably not into the tank... water, rust, dirt, etc.)
- The lever on the cylinder head (red) must be a decompressor. (holds the exhaust valve open?)
We start in the decompressed position and as soon as the engine has made a few turns on the starter, we put it back in the compression position. (limiting the efforts to pass the first compression)
- There is a lever marked "stop" just above the oil filter. It may be involved in the manipulation.
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