Ban on new thermal cars in 2035: Germany changes its mind!

[Christophe]

Also, from internal sources I can tell you that the Laigret project is not dead...

You remember ?

[Remundo]

yes there is a topic on Econology

it is a biochemical way to dig.

[Christophe]

I'm going to contact my source again to see if he wants to make a public update on the progress...

[Janic]

the expansionist human madness only wants to see the shiny side of its achievements, forgetting rather quickly that any piece on its reverse, much less shiny and even above all dark.
This race for the future means of wasting and polluting is only an illusion produced by this ever more negative way of wanting to maintain, and even worsen, an already precarious situation by wanting to do worse than before, linked to the cannibal "colonialism" of the resources that are not infinite!
This colonialism is not the work of poor countries, but of rich countries who still want more and more as if our finite world were inexhaustible and although knowing that this approach is wrong, this part of humanity continues in this way No Exit. So looking for a replacement energy, to waste too, is only to step back to better jump...into the void of a bottomless pit.

[Christophe]

Ahmed comes out of this body!

(but at least when it's you who writes I understand all the words )

[Remundo]

the decreasing philosophy is great on Econology...

But at some point you have to fill the bowl, have a moving car and electricity at home...

Let the great decreasing philosophers follow through with their idea. I know some picturesque spots in Auvergne where they can raise a few sheep with a stream at the bottom of the valley. Firewood available.

All this in a remote sedentary lifestyle and inspiring simplicity.

[Janic]

Because a country like France can mobilize an enormous amount of organic matter, both through its climate/soil that is conducive to plant growth, but also through its industrial and import activities, leaving behind petroleum derivatives of all kinds (oils, plastics, fabrics, etc.).

we must stop thinking French, European or American navel-gazing when the subject concerns ALL humanity in expansion (for the moment) and where each inhabitant is entitled to claim the same possibilities of consumption and therefore of waste. And there our do-it-yourself will not be enough, even by tightening their belts until they become energetically anorexic

the decreasing philosophy is great on Econology...
But at some point you have to fill the bowl, have a moving car and electricity at home...

precisely we are no longer in a philosophy, but in the real world where we, the wealthy, already consume more than we have resources.
When it comes to filling the bowl, it's neither the car nor the electricity that will fill it when we (the affluent always) have turned this generous land into a total desert!

[sicetaitsimple]

Under no circumstances will the massive production of these non-fossil synthetic fuels be economically viable, i.e. at a reasonable production cost, if we refrain from importing them from so-called "hot spot" areas where the cost of primary electricity is derisory ie 1 to 2 c€/kWh, only wind or better still, solar in the tropics.
......
Thus, there will be in Europe only projects intended to master the technologies, ie development, training of specialists, for limited quantities.

That's why there can be debate....
Are we ready to replace a dependence on fossil oil with a dependence on "e-oil" also imported?
I think there is room for "a few" alternative solutions, notably through the electrification of uses, not just in the automobile. "Local" solutions at European level. Not in a heartbeat, of course.

[NCSH]

The ball is now in the court of the European Commission, which must make a new proposal, including synthetic fuels (non-fossil).

This should not be very difficult for him: a few years ago, before the 2019 European elections, several long-term prospective studies that remained confidential were already considering such a hypothesis...

Since then, the current term of office in place since 2019 has only paid attention and importance to solutions to be implemented in the short term, i.e. by 2030, i.e. the systematic electrification of uses, in which both pro-climate activists from green NGOs and maximalist nucleolatrists like we have so many in France.

Fortunately, the "electrifying in circles" blockers have woken up.

The good news, they are not wokists!

[NCSH]

Because a country like France can mobilize an enormous amount of organic matter, both through its climate/soil that is conducive to plant growth, but also through its industrial and import activities, leaving behind petroleum derivatives of all kinds (oils, plastics, fabrics, etc.).

we must stop thinking French, European or American navel-gazing when the subject concerns ALL humanity in expansion (for the moment) and where each inhabitant is entitled to claim the same possibilities of consumption and therefore of waste. And there our do-it-yourself will not be enough, even by tightening their belts until they become energetically anorexic

the decreasing philosophy is great on Econology...
But at some point you have to fill the bowl, have a moving car and electricity at home...

precisely we are no longer in a philosophy, but in the real world where we, the wealthy, already consume more than we have resources.
When it comes to filling the bowl, it's neither the car nor the electricity that will fill it when we (the affluent always) have turned this generous land into a total desert!

It is the immense advantage of non-fossil carbon energies whose production processes I have explained not to exhaust agricultural land such as high-yield energy crops from biomass, to limit the multiplication of mines of new categories (rare earths, lithium, cobalt, nickel, etc.) to generalize electric motors for vehicles and other applications, etc.

A priori, all the 10 billion inhabitants of planet Earth could benefit from it, in different proportions however, without leading to systematic desertification.