AliExpress: increase well beyond 20% VAT

[phil59]

I don't know if you order from Ali, but I do.

We can say everything, it comes from China, but like what we buy elsewhere, it does not change much, except that we cut a bunch of intermediaries, which do not necessarily sugar more than that, but as they can be numerous, it raises the "mayo".

There is also the increase in raw materials, transport costs, but here, things that I took in July at around € 30, go to € 60-70 ...

As a general rule, it is 50% mini more ....

Have you seen these same impacts?

Transport, ok, China, yes, but anyway, it comes from there.

But you take your car to pick it up, and there, we deliver it to you at home, and it's part of a trip for different things, so in total, probably much less than what you will do on your own .. ..

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

I went through everything I bought, simulating new purchases. Sometimes it's a little more expensive, sometimes a little less. I don't see anything significant as you assert. Without contempt, of course.

[phil59]

Maybe I only buy things that have increased ...

I don't know, but my colleagues also have the same impression ...

And for once, at work, we took on amazon, much cheaper than on ALi, 75 €, instead of the mini at 105 € ...

This is the first time ....

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Bof, on Amaz, it's the same as on Ali, sometimes it's more expensive, often less. No rule. Afterwards, there is always the option of going elsewhere, and it is the same observation. Personally, I only buy certain "trifles" on Ali (leds and other consumables), because after-sales service .... smokes, it's Chinese!

[Exnihiloest]

I have seen some protest that the GAFA do not pay taxes. One thing led to another, everything that the states missed in their puncture is now in their sights.
And who pays the taxes that GAFA now pay?
Their clients!

Do you count the turkeys.

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

(What is he foooort with his little arms, anyway ....)

[phil59]

(What is he foooort with his little arms, anyway ....)

What an effort! at least there, with what "Guitounet" says, it brings a lot ....

All this to "bring down" the others, and not to bring anything constructive ....

How lamentable ...

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Did you count yourself, turkey?

[Christophe]

There is also the increase in raw materials, transport costs, but here, things that I took in July at around € 30, go to € 60-70 ...

The law on VAT on imports outside the EU was applied on 1/07 ... so I don't quite understand your remark ... You're sure these were orders placed in July (or delivered in July this which is not the same?)?

[Exnihiloest]

 
Taxation feeds the state budget, so why complain about paying "more" when we should complain about having paid so little for years, mark of a failure of the public authorities to apply the rules? of taxation, to the detriment of the general interest.
I'm talking about those who regularly vilify multinationals, and who would also complain about paying more at Ali, I'm not saying that's your case, phil59, I don't know.

But for those who defend a libertarian tendency society where the individual must assume his personal responsibilities and where the state would play its minimal role (justice, health, police, education, public space planning), if the GAFA pay little or no taxes, whatever, it may even be beneficial for everyone. There will be enough left for the state, which is wasting citizens' money anyway. The more he has, the more he wants, especially local authorities, the more he squanders without any effect on wealth creation. The less it would have, and the more the state would have to refocus on its "core business", that's why I said above "perhaps even beneficial for all", the non-taxation of GAFA.