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XL1 and L1 Volkswagen, finally 1L to 100 km?




by Christophe » 26/01/11, 01:38

A car to 1L / 100km by Volkswagen? Sword shot in the water, greenwashing marketing or actual willingness to market such a vehicle? The future will tell us ...

Ferdinant Piech is the man of the big differences (often successful): after having managed to produce the most powerful automobile, the fastest and the most powerful of all the world production, it remains now the objective to arrive at producing the most fuel efficient automobile in the world. It's been more than ten years since these works return regularly to the front of the stage, here is the latest evolution of the concept.

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The initial goal was to produce an automobile equipped with a combustion engine and able to consume less than a liter of fuel at 100 kilometers. Achieved success with the XL1 concept that only needs 0,9 liters of diesel to travel 100 kilometers, thanks to an 2,0 TDI literally coupled to an electric motor - powered by lithium-ion batteries - and a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission .

The XL1 is a hybrid plug-in type and its body is always refined to the maximum to allow this level of extremely low consumption. The car will be presented at the Qatar show this week and is announced closer than ever to a final model ready for commercialization.


Source: http://www.caradisiac.com/Volkswagen-XL ... -65308.htm
http://www.caradisiac.com/Volkswagen-XL ... -65139.htm

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In 2009 there was the project L1:

(...) The latter called L1 (for 1 liter 100 km) cheats a little with the reality of the figures that indicate a consumption of 1.49 liter 100km 39 gr / km of CO2.
But, it must also be noted that this name is chosen to recall another concept L1 unveiled in 2002 who had never found the way to the series, the concerns are not the same then.

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Here, VW has honed the original 'pebble' look and swapped the 9ch single cylinder for a more modern group. We have here a 36 ch diesel twin engine coupled with an electric motor and a double clutch gearbox. The L1 measures 3.80m long and weighs 500 kg.
All this does not indicate that this new opus will see the light of day because besides its questionable look, the L1 is a 2 tandem seats with a very worked aerodynamics (removable doors, no retro but cameras, reduced width) and the trunk anecdotal of 50 dm3! However, there is talk of a possible commercialization by 2013.
via autobild


Source: http://www.caradisiac.com/Francfort-200 ... -35092.htm

Unless it remains a beautiful proto, salon concept car that will end up "in a drawer", just to say: look, we know how to do ... like the renault vesta and the eco2000 25 years ago already:

https://www.econologie.com/renault-vesta ... -3752.html
https://www.econologie.com/forums/eco2000-et ... vt128.html

Then there is also Loremo ... who is slow to leave: https://www.econologie.com/forums/loremo-la- ... t1624.html

ps: so pb2488? "We" still don't want the car at 1L / 100km?
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by sherkanner » 26/01/11, 08:29

yes finally in my opinion it's just not the right manufacturer, it's citroen who should release such a vehicle, but good peugeot all ca ...

If it becomes more than a concept I am strongly interested
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by Christophe » 26/01/11, 09:29

Why would one builder be more fit than another?

Good memory pb (ps: when starts with http: // you do not need to put the url tag) : Cheesy:
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by I Citro » 26/01/11, 14:37

: Arrow: The best analysts agree that we should not wait for the break-up of existing players.

So this beautiful exercise demonstrates that it is possible, that the builders are capable of it ... It does not demonstrate that they want to do it ...

In general, the resulting communication uses as arguments: "that's not what our customers want", or "our customers want safer, more powerful vehicles ..." :frown:

Bertrand PICCARD made an edifying intervention to the sustainable development commission of the National Assembly. (a nugget to archive)

In particular, he explains that breaks never come from historical actors in a sector of activity.
For example: mobile phones were not invented by wired phone makers, or the best electric cars by car manufacturers (referring to TESLA).
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by stipe » 26/01/11, 14:47

citro wrote:In particular, he explains that breaks never come from historical actors in a sector of activity.
For example: mobile phones were not invented by wired phone makers, or the best electric cars by car manufacturers (referring to TESLA).


we could also find examples with Apple
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Re: XL1 and L1 Volkswagen, finally 1L to 100 km?




by Obamot » 26/01/11, 17:41

... you mean "we could" (with Apple you have to talk about the past, since their income has become a penny ... I understand ...)

Christophe wrote:A car to 1L / 100km by Volkswagen? Sword shot in the water, greenwashing marketing or actual willingness to market such a vehicle? The future will tell us ...

it will come out when the oil will be 15 € the liter?
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by Thibaud » 26/01/11, 17:47

This car if it is produced massively at an affordable price or at least relatively affordable and that the conso does not exceed 2L 100 should work well.

The problem will certainly be the lack of seating that will be a drag on the sale.

stipe wrote:
citro wrote:In particular, he explains that breaks never come from historical actors in a sector of activity.
For example: mobile phones were not invented by wired phone makers, or the best electric cars by car manufacturers (referring to TESLA).


we could also find examples with Apple


I do not see the relationship with Apple :|
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by stipe » 26/01/11, 20:57

Thibaud wrote:
stipe wrote:
citro wrote:In particular, he explains that breaks never come from historical actors in a sector of activity.
For example: mobile phones were not invented by wired phone makers, or the best electric cars by car manufacturers (referring to TESLA).


we could also find examples with Apple


I do not see the relationship with Apple :|


Apple was not a manufacturer of mp3 player or mobile phone?
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by Thibaud » 26/01/11, 21:36

Yes, I understand better now, it also proves that "no" specialists need reliable products.

I greatly appreciate Apple products, I have a Macbook since 3 years and a half, no problem since, my iphone has 1 year and a half, and no problem either.

They are more expensive to buy but last longer so the environmental cost and the cost and lower in the end.
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