XL1 and L1 Volkswagen, finally 1L to 100 km?

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by Christophe » 09/02/11, 12:47

Another VW "eco car" that is more realistic on the market: https://www.econologie.com/forums/volkswagen ... 10464.html
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by Christophe » 25/03/12, 22:37

Volkswagen XL1: The car that consumes 1 l / 100 km will be produced!
25 Mars 2012 15h28


For a few years, VW has been putting together prototypes that consume a liter of fuel every 100 kilometers. This time, it's clear: in 2013, the Volkswagen XL1 will come on the market.
The car that consumes only one liter per hundred is a dream of Ferdinand Piëch, chairman of the supervisory board of the VW group. In 2002, he had already presented a first vision (L1), followed by a second concept in 2009 and this XL1 in 2011. The XL1 will go into production next year, with only a limited number of layouts (such as more conventional mirrors).
This "dream concept" presents a very refined bodywork and a mass of less than 800 kg in combination with a hybrid engine. The XL1 consumes only 0,9 l / 100 km for CO2 emissions of 24 g / km. The engine is a small 2-cylinder diesel (800 cc) which develops 47 horsepower and 121 Nm of torque. It is expressed through a 7-speed automatic transmission (DSG) which transmits energy to the rear wheels. The electric motor, meanwhile, delivers 27 horsepower and 100 Nm and works in concert with the diesel engine, or even on its own (up to a distance of 35 km). At least, this is valid for the prototype. The production model could deviate slightly from it.
Question format, the XL1 is comparable to the Polo, but is much lower. There is also room for two people who can sit next to each other, like a Smart Fortwo. The ecological benefits supplant a possible sportiness, but the XL1 is still credited with 158 km / h.


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by Janic » 26/03/12, 09:26

1l to 100 to 158km / h. Wouaouh! When are realistic numbers?
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by Christophe » 26/03/12, 09:45

I wonder more and more if VW would not have "bought" the concept of the (defunct) Loremo (also German): https://www.econologie.com/forums/loremo-la- ... t1624.html
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by I Citro » 26/03/12, 10:14

The concept of Loremo would he emulated. :?:
These vehicles have many attractions for econologists that we are, but will they be in line with our needs?
Can we imagine a commercial outlet to a low-energy vehicle if its price is high. :?:
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by sherkanner » 26/03/12, 11:22

For the commercial outlet, it will be necessary to make its own calculations of profitability.
As for the choice between gasoline and diesel based on the annual km and maintenance costs.

Would it be better to have something that costs expensive but consumes nothing, or something that costs nothing, but that consumes a kidney.
Given the rise in fuel prices, it will be more and more interesting to choose something that consumes nothing.
Finally, if he does so at 50k euro, it does not matter. At 20k, you will have to make your accounts. At 10k, I would be interested.

Personally, mainly from the highway, constant consumption of the engine is what interests me the most. Not standardized consumption with the hybrid, we know that the figures are quite wrong.
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by Christophe » 08/08/16, 10:50

the XL1 was finally marketed ... ultra confidential ... and at a price completely anti democratic (this explains that?) and not at all realistic production cost AMHA: the opposite of what should have been done ...

Its design varies a little:
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Only 250 units of this model exist in the world, and one of them was discovered at Gasperich in an underground garage on Friday.

This is a concept car that is not marketed on a large scale, a hybrid electric-diesel 1 liter!

The upgraded version of the L1, the XL1, was introduced for the first time in 2011 with the aim of building a two-person car that consumes less than a liter of diesel on 100 km.

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The 250 units of the limited edition were sold as early as mid-2013 at a price of 111.000 euros exclusively in Europe. The battery is enough to make 50 km, according to VW. The engine consumes 0,9 liters on 100 km and displays CO2 emissions of 21 g / km.



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by Christophe » 08/08/16, 10:52

sherkanner wrote:Finally, if he does so at 50k euro, it does not matter. At 20k, you will have to make your accounts. At 10k, I would be interested.


Your high estimates were still underestimated :( 110k ... : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
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by Remundo » 08/08/16, 11:31

yes, they chose the angle of the collector's car ...

not far from being a prototype, with only 250 copies ...

such a car can be industrialized for 5 6 times cheaper without great difficulty, especially when one is called VW, the world's leading manufacturer ...
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by Christophe » 08/08/16, 11:35

Of course ... but "they" don't want ...

How many Bugatti Veyron were produced? Just to compare? Reply: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron_16.4
Let 450 in 10 years ...

And Bugatti is also Volkswagen ...
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