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by Ahmed » 04/08/15, 13:59

The paradox of the beginning of this thread result in accounting, the result is highly dependent on initial postulates (as in all reasoning).
Most of the industrial activities (I include the agricultural sector) would be highly deficient if it were to take into account the negative externalities.
I see that apart from quantitative data, the city of Copenhagen uses qualitative criteria, which does not seem to me irrelevant, but remains a delicate blend, since it introduces a methodological bias ...

Furthermore, it should not show complacency due to the ad: it only reveals the obvious, which is that what is good for the economy (the waste) is bad for the human ...
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by I Citro » 04/08/15, 14:30

Yes, even though many policies of financial interests refuse orders this view, facts are stubborn.

I would add that the longer we wait to take action to slow or even reverse, further corrections will be severe.

This concept of quantitative versus qualitative criteria criteria begins increasingly to express themselves (even clumsily) in economic (health costs, environmental costs, ...).

This is a fundamental development whose arguments still need to be clarified so that they can no longer be qualified as "methodological bias".
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by moinsdewatt » 04/08/15, 14:39

citro wrote:Yes, even though many policies of financial interests refuse orders this view, facts are stubborn.

I would add that the longer we wait to take action to slow or even reverse, further corrections will be severe.
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Do not be so negative, ca advance in France

Energy Transition: the bicycle mileage allowance saved

21 May 2015 | by Florence Guernalec (with AFP)


The 21 May 2015, the National Assembly has maintained - against the advice of the government - his vote in favor of the creation of a bicycle mileage allowance for employees traveling between home and work. This compensation shall be exempt from social security contributions, within the limit of an amount determined by decree. For employees, it would be deductible from the tax base on income.

The bicycle mileage allowance continues its legislative path. The provision had been introduced against the advice of the government in September 2014 first reading of the bill on the energy transition, at the initiative of Socialist MEPs, environmentalists and left-wing radicals, including members of the parliamentary club for cycling . The Senate had then confirmed. MEPs rejected the 21 May 2015, the amendment to delete the government, votes against 33 4 when considering the new reading into the text.

The bicycle mileage allowance is intended to be borne by employers or all of the costs incurred by their employees traveling by bicycle between home and the workplace. The amount would be set by decree. The compensation shall be exempt from social security contributions, within the limit of an amount determined by decree. For employees, it would be deductible from the tax base on income.

Ségolène Royal had asked, on May 21, 2015, to the deputies who examine the text in new reading, to remove this allowance. The Minister of Ecology explained that "it is absolutely not a question of marking any decline" in the encouragement of the use of bicycles, but of responding to the "completely justified request of the Minister of Finance , which considers that the tax provisions should be examined in the budget bill ".

In the process, the members voted - through government amendments - a reduced rate subscriptions motorway for vehicles with low emissions, and vehicles used in car sharing, irrespective of the pace of renegotiation or renewal of concessions. In fact, this provision was inserted in the bill on the energy transition in the Senate, but in the case of renewal or renegotiation of a motorway concession, notes the statement from the government.


http://www.mobilicites.com/011-3781-Tra ... auvee.html
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by Macro » 04/08/15, 15:36

Ben is bpas won that employers pay their employees will please to ride a bike ....

I was there there's some example can a very blatant about it ..

A fellow resident at 3km from his place of work had his driving license withdrawn (he tends to sway a bit of additive in his tobacco)
Said character being subject to mount periodic penalty payments (it must get to her taff in 30mn max) warned his employer, made his service vehicle and (as it is also a good cyclist) has just argued with his bike (or a eventuelement provided by the company) he could honor his carefree service ....

His employer (which has a Service HSC concrete in concrete) resumed statistics ride home workplace accidents on 30 last years .... And those who (by far) the most elevated claims were: Cyclists ( but not necessarily responsible for disaster anyway) Appraisal he made his home work trips affairants a penalty payment by taxi ....
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by elephant » 04/08/15, 18:53

I agree with this boss. Because, in addition, if this is on call is that its presence in emergency is vital for the company. Cycling at night, in the rain, this is in danger!
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by Flytox » 04/08/15, 19:35

For the "ecological" management of travel, an employer that I know well, gives an "energy transport bonus" of around 40 € / month for all its employees, whether they arrive at work, on foot, on horseback, by car or by public transport paid by the Works Council ... but the clothing is green etc ... : Mrgreen:
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by hic » 05/08/15, 09:15

Alternative Shema!

Get medical prescription Disabled spycho (the) engine
any journey less 10km performs V, VE or VAE : Mrgreen:


and therefore
make it mandatory bike journeys of less 10km,
which represents the majority of job paths
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by Janic » 05/08/15, 09:41

hic hello
Alternative Shema!
Get medical prescription Disabled spycho (the) engine
any journey less 10km performs V, VE or VAE Mr. Green
and therefore
make it mandatory bike journeys of less 10km,
which represents the majority of job paths

It is not for tomorrow because the automobile is an indicator of social "success" which must be shown to the other well-off. (like eating meat!)
This is more a mindset than anything else (see Holland with its millions of bicycles.)
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by hic » 05/08/15, 10:40

Janic wrote:hic hello
Alternative Shema!
Get medical prescription Disabled spycho (the) engine
any journey less 10km performs V, VE or VAE Mr. Green
and therefore
make it mandatory bike journeys of less 10km,
which represents the majority of job paths

It is not for tomorrow because the automobile is an indicator of social "success" which must be shown to the other well-off. (like eating meat!)
This is more a mindset than anything else (see Holland with its millions of bicycles.)

And if! (Not joking)
this scheme was realized without direct political coercion?
by the general and increasing impoverishment, for example?
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by Ahmed » 05/08/15, 10:45

The few steps towards a rehabilitation of the bicycle should not be misled: it is not a question of a rupture and the beginning of a change of model, but simply a sign of "saturation" (as Bertrand Méheust.
This is to try to persist behavior tolerating or even encouraging the opposite behavior, which then constitutes a safety valve and a handy outlet; the initial system and survival, relying on his crutch ...
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