Ok 500 kg + intrinsic weight of 200 kg, + 2 passengers at 70 kg
Total: 840 kg
What an overload limit, knowing "the man" do you seriously think that users will limit themselves to prescriptions ...
So it's going to a vehicle of almost 1t.
What do we do on the way up / down with the batteries that make the soul ...
What if the drivers overestimate their sports performance ...
For me it's a "Canada Dry" type invention
SMIRMORK, The drivers will have to have big coat
Obamot wrote:Ok 500 kg + intrinsic weight of 200 kg, + 2 passengers at 70 kg
Total: 840 kg
What an overload limit, knowing "the man" do you seriously think that users will limit themselves to prescriptions ...
So it's going to a vehicle of almost 1t.
What do we do on the way up / down with the batteries that make the soul ...
What if the drivers overestimate their sports performance ...
For me it's a "Canada Dry" type invention
Obamot
What do you have against Canada Dry which is my favorite soft drink?
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Stepping behind sometimes can strengthen friendship.
Criticism is good if added to some compliments.
Alain
Criticism is good if added to some compliments.
Alain
I don't understand why the SMIRMORK should look like a semi-trailer.
But for charging it is quite possible a bicycle taxi is already
designed for 280kg of payload and one person pedaling assisted by an engine.
There are many moving by bike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA8SLEQPEjc
But for charging it is quite possible a bicycle taxi is already
designed for 280kg of payload and one person pedaling assisted by an engine.
There are many moving by bike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA8SLEQPEjc
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+1 (against all unnecessary weight)
Excellent remarks, that's what had me "caught the eye" at first sight!
But I didn't mean to tell them not to discourage them
Moreover, since we are in an economic formula "cyclo", why all this huge fairing? So that it fits with the concept of the appellation? It is "econological people"
(I invented a new formula there, am I good?)
The funny thing is that the more you dig, the more you realize that you can eventually find positive points in the concept. And the more we discover, the more we realize that many solutions already exist:
100 kg of load (just for this weight, imagine the size of the calves): huh!
500w 48v cargo tricycle with electric motor
Reinforced steel structure
Tires front, 20 "X2.4 rear 24" X2.4, aluminum rims
Front brakes: V-brake
Rear saddles: double hydraulic disc brake
Internal dimension 120 * 94 * 65cm
Chain drive (KMC)
PVC roof, waterproof
7 or 21 speeds (Shimano Marque)
Load capacity: 300KGS (50kgs more for a cyclist!)
Electric assistance
Wheel motor 500W, brushless
Battery: 4pces 48V / 20Ah
Weight: 114KGS
Another more credible concept to adapt:
Gas propulsion? Co2 ......?
Excellent remarks, that's what had me "caught the eye" at first sight!
But I didn't mean to tell them not to discourage them
Moreover, since we are in an economic formula "cyclo", why all this huge fairing? So that it fits with the concept of the appellation? It is "econological people"
(I invented a new formula there, am I good?)
The funny thing is that the more you dig, the more you realize that you can eventually find positive points in the concept. And the more we discover, the more we realize that many solutions already exist:
100 kg of load (just for this weight, imagine the size of the calves): huh!
500w 48v cargo tricycle with electric motor
Reinforced steel structure
Tires front, 20 "X2.4 rear 24" X2.4, aluminum rims
Front brakes: V-brake
Rear saddles: double hydraulic disc brake
Internal dimension 120 * 94 * 65cm
Chain drive (KMC)
PVC roof, waterproof
7 or 21 speeds (Shimano Marque)
Load capacity: 300KGS (50kgs more for a cyclist!)
Electric assistance
Wheel motor 500W, brushless
Battery: 4pces 48V / 20Ah
Weight: 114KGS
Another more credible concept to adapt:
Alain G wrote:Obamot wrote:Ok 500 kg + intrinsic weight of 200 kg, + 2 passengers at 70 kg
Total: 840 kg
What an overload limit, knowing "the man" do you seriously think that users will limit themselves to prescriptions ...
So it's going to a vehicle of almost 1t.
What do we do on the way up / down with the batteries that make the soul ...
What if the drivers overestimate their sports performance ...
For me it's a "Canada Dry" type invention
Obamot
What do you have against Canada Dry which is my favorite soft drink?
Gas propulsion? Co2 ......?
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non obamo the trailer very good to protect the goods from the rain.
This vehicle must be usable in all weathers.
The cabin is also very good, if in winter we have to dress
as with skiing to avoid the cold, it is not pleasant to pedal.
So cabin closed less cold and more pleasant to pedal.
It's just the fairing of the cabin, the front face is too straight, there is a big catch in the wind, I will see something much more rounded.
But we should see with horse why he chose this shape for the cabin.
I can't wait to see such a vehicle in town.
This vehicle must be usable in all weathers.
The cabin is also very good, if in winter we have to dress
as with skiing to avoid the cold, it is not pleasant to pedal.
So cabin closed less cold and more pleasant to pedal.
It's just the fairing of the cabin, the front face is too straight, there is a big catch in the wind, I will see something much more rounded.
But we should see with horse why he chose this shape for the cabin.
I can't wait to see such a vehicle in town.
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That's what I meant, which is why in my last example, I say: "Another more credible concept to adapt". I think the animation I put on is a good source of inspiration.
Everything is to be reviewed.
Because it seems to me above all a work of design, before even a substantive work on the technical level
The profiles used seem to me far too "light" compared to the stated ambition of "transported mass". Look at the example I am giving, which comes from China! This is what we must base ourselves on. There, they know their way about cyclo by tradition ... we can believe them ...
Too many points are badly done.
- wind resistance.
- type of profiles and design. It seems too light for good durability.
- stupidity to want to make a concept based on a design and a name (we should do the opposite).
- compartment insulation
- the "semi-trailer" design requires an additional wheel set: heavy, expensive and bulky. As long as I do, I would have recovered the rear axle designed as a buggy while the trailer is used for storage. The buggy is docked on the part of the cabin => weight saving, without losing the concept of modules.
etc ...
In their place, I would try to collaborate with an existing builder, who already has this type of experience. Because R&D work cannot be improvised: it is long and very expensive. Then there are the issues of certification and security!
PS: I don't think this is the project of "Horse" ...though
Everything is to be reviewed.
Because it seems to me above all a work of design, before even a substantive work on the technical level
The profiles used seem to me far too "light" compared to the stated ambition of "transported mass". Look at the example I am giving, which comes from China! This is what we must base ourselves on. There, they know their way about cyclo by tradition ... we can believe them ...
Too many points are badly done.
- wind resistance.
- type of profiles and design. It seems too light for good durability.
- stupidity to want to make a concept based on a design and a name (we should do the opposite).
- compartment insulation
- the "semi-trailer" design requires an additional wheel set: heavy, expensive and bulky. As long as I do, I would have recovered the rear axle designed as a buggy while the trailer is used for storage. The buggy is docked on the part of the cabin => weight saving, without losing the concept of modules.
etc ...
In their place, I would try to collaborate with an existing builder, who already has this type of experience. Because R&D work cannot be improvised: it is long and very expensive. Then there are the issues of certification and security!
jessle wrote:I don't understand why the SMIRMORK should look like a semi-trailer.
PS: I don't think this is the project of "Horse" ...though
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