Roll with cheaper natural gas

[GuyGadebois]

dual fuel is automatic, namely that the driver does not choose his fuel. The car imposes gas by default, even at startup. If there is no more gas, the electronics switches to petrol (9L only ... enough to make a good hundred km anyway)

My Seat too.

And in casting line, 6L / 100 in petrol (9L tank).

[moinsdewatt]

Total opens the largest French BioGNV station

Sat 13/02/2021 Motor nature - In Gennevilliers.

Will Natural Gas for Vehicles of certified renewable origin finally experience its big departure in France? It is now possible to believe it, since the minister in charge, Jean-Baptiste Djebbari, was present at the inauguration of the largest BioNGV station in France, and that this station is in the hands of Total, one world leaders in energy.

Total already has a handful of stations distributing CNG (in the form of CNG, Compressed Natural Gas), and plans to open 110 in France, and 450 in Europe. The Minister advancing the objective of 700 stations in France by 2028. As regards the rolling stock, there are today some 5000 trucks which run on gas, the objective is to increase this fleet tenfold. It is of course good news to diversify energies, since we do not know what tomorrow will bring, but it is also an immense ecological progress, because compared to diesel, a vehicle running on BioNGV rejects 80% of CO2 less.
Gennevilliers Total CNG Station The new station is in the port of Gennevilliers, above all we expect better organization than previously, with fuel available 24/7 without delay. The advantage of this station is that it will distribute both NGV (fossil hydrocarbon) and BioNGV (100% renewable), which is not new, but what is is that it will be possible to choose, by prior contract or by choice at the pump, several levels of incorporation. Total is aiming for a 50% BioNGV (also known as biomethane) target for its European network of 450 stations by 2025. The first customers expected are professionals with heavy vehicles, but motorists are also welcome. They will find it all the more interesting because running on gas is cheaper than running on gasoline.

https://www.moteurnature.com/30799-tota ... -de-biognv

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Chuis happy, a CNG station will open in May in Manosque.

[sicetaitsimple]

Chuis happy, a CNG station will open in May in Manosque.

Ah, that's great!
So when you press the "bioNGV" button on the pump, do you think your tank will fill up with biomethane from a nearby methanizer, or molecules of Qatari or Algerian gas, or even gas? of American shale landed at the Fos / Mer terminals?

[Remundo]

Guy is not responsible for the gas mix of his CNG station

and even if there would be only fossil gas, the combustion of methane emits little CO2 compared to other hydrocarbons which have longer carbon chains.

[sicetaitsimple]

Guy is not responsible for the gas mix of his CNG station

That's for sure!

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Guy is not responsible for the gas mix of his CNG station

and even if there would be only fossil gas, the combustion of methane emits little CO2 compared to other hydrocarbons which have longer carbon chains.

Afterwards, you have several schools. In France, you have the choice between several methanes (in certain stations *), in Italy, Switzerland and Germany, the biogas is injected directly into the circuit and (increasingly) involved in the mix. Basically, we have no options.

* Note that Biogas is the most expensive.

[Remundo]

it's a bit like electricity

we balance everything in the network, but some contracts allow electrons to be extracted from renewable energy, even if physically they may not be.

for gas, I don't know, maybe there are premium rate pumps to guarantee a kind of biogas supply.

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

it's a bit like electricity

we balance everything in the network, but some contracts allow electrons to be extracted from renewable energy, even if physically they may not be.

for gas, I don't know, maybe there are premium rate pumps to guarantee a kind of biogas supply.

https://www.proviridis.fr/biomethane/

[Remundo]

yes so that's interesting, these are certified biomethane tanks.

that said, it is also relevant to inject biomethane into the GrdF network which supplies NGV stations.

The ideal would be for this gas mix to be mainly renewable, but as for electricity, we must be far from it, and even, not sure that this is possible in agricultural biomethane. For that, it would be better to focus on the gasification of organic matter and direct the synthesis of CH4.

in any case, there is not ONE solution, but there are solutions to combine to have the most renewable energy mix possible.