How many nuclear power plant + to ride electric?

[Janic]

You're certainly right, if the rainfall started a downward trend year after year, it would be problematic, but that of power stations would certainly be minimal compared to those of other sectors. I wrote it a little while ago on another thread, we can't blame photovoltaics for producing in summer, today the installation rate is around 1000MW / year (in France), it will greatly contribute to continue to make these summer episodes painless from the point of view of the supply of electricity.

In appearance only! If the photovoltaic was manufactured in France, it would consume energy, electric or other. So we must not be a Franco-French navel-keeper, but have a global, global view, because this warming does not only concern our country and therefore a shortage of water would impact all sectors of life, such as agriculture, like industry, including nuclear (58 reactors) which without permanently cooling water may pose serious problems including those of ecology. That is why I spoke of a low situation, when we have no idea what an extreme situation would be in the years to come.

[Janic]

Jancovici talked about cooling down ...

Here again, jancovici sweeps away with the back of his hand the hypothesis of an aggravation permanent bases of the climate and therefore of the significant reduction of fresh water on the whole earth whereas it only takes into account France. We are no longer at the borders of which the largest of the Chernobyl radioactive cloud had stopped (due to the gusty winds which had brought down the largest of it towards the south, including Corsica.) But a gas charged this is not like a liquid that is channeled.
His speech on the voluntary shutdown of air conditioners in this case is ridiculous, which resembles him like all the pronuclearers who defend their business and like the chemical sector defends his own.
as for the rest it is no better, despite certain logical aspects.

[sicetaitsimple]

So you shouldn't be a French-French navelist, but have a global, global view, ......

Ah, very sorry for my narrowness, but as your question 6 or 7 posts above was "Will the power plants run out of cooling water when the air conditioners are running all the time?", it is this one to which I tried to bring an answer, thinking stupidly France ......

I didn't realize that of course you had a global, global view and that you were talking about all the powerhouses of the world. There I can not answer, again my apologies.

[Janic]

Janic wrote:
So you shouldn't be a French-French navelist, but have a global, global view, ......

Ah, really sorry for my narrow-mindedness, but since your question 6 or 7 posts above was "will power plants run out of cooling water when the air conditioners are constantly running?", This is it. here to which I tried to provide an answer, stupidly thinking of France ......

indeed, but I was thus evoking a climatic situation that could become permanent (according to the climato-whistleblowers) to which we are not used, nor prepared. that does not question you, because you do not decide, any more than I do, on the future climate.

I didn't realize that of course you had a global, global view and that you were talking about all the power plants in the world. There I can not answer, again my apologies.

I don't know how to answer it either, but still no one would have the idea of ​​installing nuclear power plants in the middle of a desert. However, for the moment, France benefits from a temperate, oceanic climate (in danger) and like all the catastrophist schemes thought by the, the, previous generations have always been largely exceeded .... !!!! [ *] It does not bode well for the future

[*] who at the beginning of the last century would have imagined that we would be 7 billion and soon 10?

[sicetaitsimple]

that does not question you, because you do not decide, any more than I do, on the future climate.

Yes, but that was not the point. Your question, I'll copy it, was "will the power plants run out of cooling water when the air conditioners are running constantly?" Clearly you were talking about French power stations.

I tried to answer it. It suits you, or not, no problem .... But an answer in the tone of myopia vis-à-vis global, global problems, it's still help, let's flee!

For a specialist in posts of 100 lines peeling step by step the words of his interlocutor, it is very disappointing!

[Janic]

For a specialist in posts of 100 lines peeling step by step the words of his interlocutor, it is very disappointing!

what do you want, we can't be the best (in all modesty, of course) at everything. I express a point of view, not a dogma, nor a doctrine, others who are more "competent" do it better than me! So I stick, generally, to the subjects I know best!
However, and there you are right, the question was limited to the present situation, it is a fact. But unless you have this forum as sole source of reflection (which is not the case) my mind, I have been reproached enough, vogue on various aspects of a subject, including this one, taking into account the differences of points of view for make it, if not a synthesis, at least a personal opinion which is worth no more and no less than another. This obviously does not emerge from the question asked. So mea culpa, next time I would ask the same question on 100 lines.

[Gaston]

So mea culpa, next time I would ask the same question on 100 lines.

It was enough not to respond with an inappropriate allusion to the interlocutor's "navel gazing", but, for example, to explain that the question was intended to be more general ...

[sicetaitsimple]

It was enough not to respond with an inappropriate allusion to the interlocutor's "navel gazing", but, for example, to explain that the question was intended to be more general ...

I would not have been fooled, but it would have been more elegant towards me and less ridiculous for Janic ..... What is said is said, we are not going to spend our lives on it, it can also happen to me to bring out a real bullshit.

On the other hand, I would like to emphasize that the major consequences (in France!) Of a possible increasing deficit of rain in summer would not, in my opinion, be on electricity production (there would be solutions, in particular an accelerated deployment of the PV, which I mentioned), but of course and first of all agriculture.

If a plant does not produce for 15 days, it is not a drama, it starts again then. If a crop suffers from water stress for 15 days at the wrong time, this is the year that is lost.