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by Leo Maximus » 09/09/08, 10:05

Christophe wrote:Moué not convinced especially that of the wheel motor we can put 4 ... without problem ... I think that Honda is simply not at the point on this technology and did not want to subcontract.

Do you think of the Honda "Spoket"?
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by Christophe » 09/09/08, 10:15

No i think of nothing :)

Are there wheel motors in the Spoket?
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by Leo Maximus » 09/09/08, 10:25

Christophe wrote:No i think of nothing :)

Are there wheel motors in the Spoket?

Yes, rear wheel motor.
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by Christophe » 09/09/08, 10:40

Ah well it's all the more surprising for the FCX then ... especially since the Spocket seems rather "sport" oriented:

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A sizable fraction of the concept cars on display were also hybrid-electric vehicles; this is the Honda Spocket (yes, I spelled that right), which is also a "hybrid" of a different sort, a mix of car and small pickup truck. The front wheels are driven by a gasoline engine, and there are also electric motors in the rear wheels.


Waw petrol wheels at the front and electric wheels at the rear!
I hope that the electronics that manage the pull-ups is to the point !! :D

How much power on the wheel motors there?
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by Woodcutter » 09/09/08, 10:46

Hey, is that the "replacement" (hybrid) of the CRX that is announced?

For the thermal front wheel and electric rear wheel mix, it seems to me that we find that on the Lexus RX400h, but not in wheel motors.
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by Leo Maximus » 09/09/08, 13:22

No indication on the power of the rear engines, Honda has not given any information on this subject to believe:
http://www.autoconcept-reviews.com/cars ... honda.html . There are images of the Clarity from the time when it was presented as a concept car in 2005. The Renault Next was 2 x 7 kW at the rear.
A priori it is the CR-Z which should replace the CR-X. Let's wait for the Paris Motor Show in October.
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by Leo Maximus » 09/09/08, 13:51

Woodcutter wrote:Hey, is that the "replacement" (hybrid) of the CRX that is announced?

For the thermal front wheel and electric rear wheel mix, it seems to me that we find that on the Lexus RX400h, but not in wheel motors.

68 hp and 130 Nm torque for the single rear engine and 167 hp for the front electric motor on the Lexus RX-400h ... :D

According to users on Forum-auto, on average less than 10 l / 100 km for a machine of 2 tons with a V6 of 3,3 liters of automatic displacement of 211 hp. It is on this type of vehicle that hybridization gives the best results.
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by Leo Maximus » 10/09/08, 19:50

http://world.honda.com/news/2008/4080805FCX-Clarity/

72 miles / kg of H2, unless I am mistaken, that makes 830 grams per 100 km.
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by Christophe » 10/09/08, 21:53

Uh 72 miles / kg is 115 km / kg or 100/115 kg per km or 870 grams / 100. How do you find the 830? I took 1 mile = 1.6 km

In any case my "approximate calculations" are not too bad it seems (thanks anyway to Buch'on)

Christophe wrote:hence the H2 consumption of: 0,81 / 0,93 / 0,87 kg of H2.


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by Woodcutter » 10/09/08, 22:03

Leo Maximus wrote:http://world.honda.com/news/2008/4080805FCX-Clarity/

72 miles / kg of H2, unless I am mistaken, that makes 830 grams per 100 km.
And right after there is this: "74 mpg GGE (miles per gasoline gallon equivalent)"
Do we end up with this value?
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