GPL ... not so clean as this: the figures pollution

[jean63]

Lumberjack wrote =>

Apparently, the disgust makes you say big bullshit ...

You are painful to always post faster than you think

It is your personal judgment which has value only for yourself. [...]

Listen ... Do me a favor: learn to read the posts before retorting anything ...Or leave me alone because there, I sometimes saturate a little with your thoughtless interventions about everything ...

Thank you in advance.

Mr. Lesson Giver (you don't say anything to yourself: are you coming out of Jupiter's thigh?), I don't know who supports you at home (I don't suppose anyone because it would be unlivable for her -or him-), for my 57 years, thanks to you, I bow out to you.

I will go and see on others forums if the speakers are less absurd than you. You can't stand the contradiction; Monsieur is always right.

Too bad, I like interacting with others, but there you would do well to consult for your greater good.

I remind you that you have other opponents that you don't systematically tackle, so now have fun, look for another bone to chew on:

for example citro (who must be relatively stupid and not think before writing, and who gets his hands dirty, like me) =>

The nature engine site is very controversial when it comes to its statements on LPG, many LPG pros are upset against the lack of objectivity when it comes to the comparative analysis of LPG / diesel.. Because particles are not taken into account when they are one of the most harmful pollutants ...
I am reassembling an astra eco turbodiesel cylinder head of only 100 km and I have removed 000mm of crap that covered the internal walls of the intake pipe downstream of the EGR valve, (in which state is the catalyst ???). It seems that it should be condemned ... at 5 km my BX diesel was "clean" ...
I drive LPG on my 2 cars, a safrane and a Volvo 850 of 340.000 km and must admit that it is not economical.
By cons it is more breathable than a fuel oil and refueling is more pleasant ...
I also plan to "pantonize" an LPG (the safrane) in order to dig a new path. finally the engine management with LPG seems to me more "accessible".
For LPG, the petrol engine is the least suitable, diesel would be ideal.
Indeed the rotational speeds of diesel and their compression ratios would be more compatible with the operation of LPG. This is how LPG and CNG buses operate.

Christophe =>
I'm sending you a little PM.

[Woodcutter]

Happy Birthday...

[jean63]

Happy Birthday...

please

[Makarov]

Hello!
Sorry to interrupt you in such a beautiful scene of cleaning but the question of pantonizing a LPG I'm quite tempted. I am going to acquire a 5,7l gas / petrol chevy van. I think he will suffer because I am planning a RAMWING for him, tests with a Jatech economiser, tests with the Tufoil additive. If Mr. Moreau and are Utopia tech wants to answer my letters I will try this system well but I think I have to fight back on an American system like PICC of http://befreetech.com/ or a house construction. A I forgot the vortex valve or with.
Does anyone want to try the adventure with me?
Bye @ later on the beach!

[jean63]

Hello!
Sorry to interrupt you in such a beautiful scene of cleaning but the question of pantonizing a LPG I'm quite tempted. I am going to acquire a 5,7l gas / petrol chevy van. I think he will suffer because I am planning a RAMWING for him, tests with a Jatech economiser, tests with the Tufoil additive. If Mr. Moreau and are Utopia tech wants to answer my letters I will try this system well but I think I have to fight back on an American system like PICC of http://befreetech.com/ or a house construction. A I forgot the vortex valve or with.
Does anyone want to try the adventure with me?
Bye @ later on the beach!

What ?? !! PANTONIZE with a "product" made by Moreau ..... talk to Christophe the WM of this site which initiated the pantone, he is very angry with this Mr Moreau whom he considers as a con artist ... unless that I have missed a few episodes.

What you want to install on your LPG vehicle has nothing to do with a pantone (water bubbler, reactor .... etc ..), I suppose that the US PICC system does not do better than the Moreau system. For pantone, you have to talk about it with the site's specialists who are André, zac, camel1, PITMIX ... and I forget some, but already with them, starting with André, you will have a real answer to your questions before you start. buy any stew.

If it works, let me know. If not too expensive I can try to install these economizers on my aging R25 but in great shape with its LPG at 310 km.

[moby25]

I allow myself to bounce back from this post.

Personally, I have 2 vehicles that run on LPG.

I made this choice out of simple conviction, out of philosophy, and not to be like everyone else and run on diesel.

Regarding studies we find everything and its opposite on the net.
I had also read one which affirmed that from well to wheel LPG was the least "polluting" in terms of CO2. (to check).

Anyway, LPG emits a little more Co2 than diesel (but hey we know very well that the CO2 emissions of cars are negligible compared to everything that is emitted by factories.)

I especially chose LPG so as not to reject these filthy micro particles which are really harmful to our health, especially in the city. The DPF does not change anything because it only lets through the smallest ones, that is to say those which remain deep in our lungs.

In France we do not do much to launch this LPG. Since the bonus of 2000 € is given only for vehicles emitting less than 140g of Co2 / km, we only see small engines that are equipped with it. There are no longer any road worthy of the name that can claim this bonus. The GPL equips 1.2 or 1.4 so people who are going to try a GPL will say GPL = it's not working.
In addition, in tests, including times in 5th grade, atmospheric gasoline is compared to a turbo diesel. It is obvious that without downshifting, the gasoline is behind, but it would suffice to drop one or two gear and that's kif kif.

The last thing is also to have chosen LPG so as not to follow the French pro diesel movement. For me, we have to diversify energy sources, and we did the opposite in France.

[Did67]

In addition, in tests, including times in 5th grade, atmospheric gasoline is compared to a turbo diesel. It is obvious that without downshifting, the gasoline is behind, but it would suffice to drop one or two gear and that's kif kif.

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When the criterion of choice is the covers, it is that we are dealing with a fanatic of the vroom vroom. And the LPG will be dead anyway ...

I think the car is a whole philosophy ... On a real journey, the difference between a car that has phenomenal recovery and a car that has less is almost zero. Unless you are constantly overtaking "hard"! Except who cares about white lines, etc ...

I bought a C1 that I put on LPG. The Citröen salesman took me for a jerk. He openly screwed up on me!

She works great, my tit. Its CO² pollution level is close to that of the old Prius, its level of CO emissions much lower and on particles, I have no data, but evidence (given the state of the oil after 15 km), there is no photo ... After transformation - tax credit, it is roughly 000 times cheaper. Of course, it is not the same size, nor the same standard!

But the Prius is so chic !!!

[moby25]

I am not talking about gun retakes, but a minimum to be able to double without risking his life with each overtaking.

Moreover, I do not believe, precisely that LPG is dead for efficient cars. Because one of its interest is to be able to drive with a v6 or v8 with a more reasonable cost of use than gasoline.

For my part I have a 1.8 122hp nubira and the perfs are largely sufficient, both in terms of recovery and general approval.

However in the tests, each time we read "soft engine", "no fishing" etc etc ... In France as soon as we do more than 10s from 80 to 120 in 5th we are dealing with a calf. I don't really understand their criteria anymore.

It has become anything. To believe that it now takes 180hp and a couple of trucks to drive in France ...

Otherwise concerning your C1, I find it good to have put it on LPG and I can see the reaction of the seller who must have taken you for a madman. In France as soon as we get out of the mold, and therefore here diesel we are "marginal".

[Did67]

However in the tests, each time we read "soft engine", "no fishing" etc etc ... In France as soon as we do more than 10s from 80 to 120 in 5th we are dealing with a calf. I don't really understand their criteria anymore.

It has become anything. To believe that it now takes 180hp and a couple of trucks to drive in France ...

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We misunderstood each other: it is in relation to this, this trend in general, that I said that those for whom x tenth less per kilometer standing start was important, for them LPG was dead. I wasn't talking about you at all, but vroom vroom fans!

In short, I did it badly to "support" your point. Like that, in response, I understand that it was not clear!

I had noted that you said that it was enough to downgrade ... So that you understood and we agreed!

[moby25]

There's no problem, I didn't take your remarks badly, I just argued better behind