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by Christophe » 24/06/20, 15:23

GuyGadebois wrote:After that, which is limited to 110 around cities and in the suburbs, why not, because of noise pollution. Afterwards, everywhere else, 120 seems to me a good compromise.


This has already been the case for years: the periphery of Strasbourg is at 70 km / h !! There is even an area at 50 !! : Shock:
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by GuyGadebois » 24/06/20, 15:25

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GuyGadebois wrote:After that, which is limited to 110 around cities and in the suburbs, why not, because of noise pollution. Afterwards, everywhere else, 120 seems to me a good compromise.


This has already been the case for years: the periphery of Strasbourg is at 70 km / h !! There is even an area at 50 !! : Shock:

50 on a perif, at first glance it may seem ridiculous, unless it is well done and allows a regulation of the flow allowing not to clog the city when one leaves it. But it requires an efficient PC like in Geneva, for example. I don't know how it works in Strasbourg.
In Switzerland, speeds are regulated according to the flow from motorways to cities. On the highway, the speed changes in real time on the electronic panels and in town the red lights are also regulated according to traffic. It's not perfect, but it's better than elsewhere where we go from 130 (or 110) to 50 in a few hundred meters, which does not fail to cause a good number of traffic jams.
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by Christophe » 24/06/20, 15:34

50 is at the entrance of a single track tunnel ...

This is exactly: https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5715079 ... 384!8i8192

I remember because I got grilled once at 52 km / h, I believe ... abused ... : Mrgreen:

And on the slowdown path ... it's 40 : Shock: are idiots where what? To make a stopper there is no better ...
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by GuyGadebois » 24/06/20, 15:40

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And on the slowdown path ... it's 40 : Shock: are idiots where what? To make a stopper there is no better ...

Well no, as explained above, the guaranteed traffic jams is when we go from 130 (or 110) to 50 (or 40). After all, there are too many cars in the city and the outskirts, the existing infrastructure cannot be efficient and absorb the traffic. Corks are therefore an inevitable evil in the current state of things.
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by Christophe » 24/06/20, 15:59

GuyGadebois wrote:Well no, as explained above, the guaranteed traffic jams is when we go from 130 (or 110) to 50 (or 40).


I do not know if the limit before these 50/40 is 70, 90 or 110 ... I look for 90 ...

Except that you have to be 40 at the sign if you want to respect the rules of the road (I know that's how I missed my motorcycle license: by respecting this rule when a tocard stuffed behind me !! !): suddenly in rush hour there is a safe bet that cars drive at 40 ... a few hundred meters on the highway !! : Mrgreen:
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by GuyGadebois » 24/06/20, 16:07

Christophe wrote:
GuyGadebois wrote:Well no, as explained above, the guaranteed traffic jams is when we go from 130 (or 110) to 50 (or 40).


I do not know if the limit before these 50/40 is 70, 90 or 110 ... I look for 90 ...

Except that you have to be 40 at the sign if you want to respect the rules of the road (I know that's how I missed my motorcycle license: by respecting this rule when a tocard stuffed behind me !! !): suddenly in rush hour there is a safe bet that cars drive at 40 ... a few hundred meters on the highway !! : Mrgreen:

Decision makers are bullshit champions, sometimes. We see these things ...
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by Christophe » 24/06/20, 16:08

Christophe wrote:I do not know if the limit before these 50/40 is 70, 90 or 110 ... I look for 90 ...


I leaned badly : Mrgreen: ... it's 70:

https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5707531 ... 384!8i8192

So in short, the peripherals at 110 make me laugh ... since there are already many "worse" elsewhere ...
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by ENERC » 24/06/20, 19:41

Speed ​​limits are also there to increase throughput. The maximum speed is around 60 km / h. And so to be able to drive at 130 km / h, there really must be no one on the road. Those who will take the highway to go on vacation will understand : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

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by Christophe » 25/06/20, 00:05

Source? Methodology ?

It seems to me that this simulator, very well done, does not give the same conclusion ... I need to replay it a little with ...

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by ENERC » 25/06/20, 16:24

Christophe wrote:Source? Methodology ?

http://www.omnil.fr/IMG/pdf/la_circulat ... n_2010.pdf on 9 page.
These are data on A4- A86 sense Province Paris
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