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Cost of salting and snow removal of roads in winter




by Christophe » 28/02/13, 10:32

Seen in the bulletin of the municipality: what is the cost of snow removal in winter and salt consumption per km?

As I had been wondering for a long time, I share the numbers.

There are about 100 km of roads in the commune.

Salt consumption: about 0.2 Ton / km (say it's a reduced amount to limit the econological impact)

Duration of salting: 4h / 20 km = 12 min / km = 5 average km / h
Duration of a snow removal: 6h / 20 km = 18 min / km = 3.3 average km / h

I assume that these speeds take into account the hangar shed because they are very weak!

Price of salting / snow removal invoiced: 90 € / h:
- 18 € / km for salting
- 27 € / km for snow removal.

In salting it is necessary to add the price of salt 82 evening € / T is 82 * 0.2 = 16.4 € / km is 34.4 € / total km

Salting + snow removal come back to 27 + 34.4 = 61.4 € / km

So much for the order of magnitude: 60 € / km maintained in winter. Either for the common 6000 € per complete pass (blade + salt).

There was 13 salages and 4 snow removal this winter on 100 km ie a total cost of:

- 13 * 100 * 34.4 = € 44720
- 4 * 100 * 27 = € 10800

Total: 55 520 € for 5200 inhabitant = 10 € / inhabitant (so if the raw numbers look high, it is still very correct finally as price ... especially for security)

Do you have other figures? (especially those of Quebecois?)
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by Alain G » 28/02/13, 18:07

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In Montreal in 2009: 15 000 $ (11 153 euros) of the Km
In Quebec in 2009: 13 000 $ (9666 euros) of the Km


Montreal: 1 649 515 hab. (2011) 296 km of streets to maintain
Quebec: 516 622 hab. (2011) 2550 km of streets to maintain


I leave it to you to do the calculations per inhabitant because it was quite laborious to find some information like the number of km of road network per city.
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by Alain G » 28/02/13, 18:13

Finally it's not so bad!

2 70 $ per capita for Montreal and 173 cm of snow (2009)
64 $ per capita for Quebec and 258 cm of snow (2009)

If we are talking about the province-wide road network in Quebec, the cost per capita is exorbitant, but I do not have the numbers.


What year are you talking about and how many cm are you getting for your commune?
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by Rabbit » 28/02/13, 18:35

Alain G wrote:What year are you talking about and how many cm are you getting for your commune?


I have the impression that it is not here that the ratio cm of snow / € / inhabitant was the most
interesting.
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by Alain G » 28/02/13, 18:51

Rabbit wrote:
Alain G wrote:What year are you talking about and how many cm are you getting for your commune?


I have the impression that it is not here that the ratio cm of snow / € / inhabitant was the most
interesting.


You see I thought the cost would be very high here but in the end if we take into account the number of cm received, we are actually more efficient at least I think!

We will be able to compare if Christophe brings the number of cm received for his commune.
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by Other » 28/02/13, 18:59

Hello
The city of Montreal, a snowstorm a little consistent costs $ 2 $ for cleaning pick up blowing load in trucks store the snow to snow the sidewalks salt (the snow must be put somewhere in a place to decant salt.)
in my city the pile of stored snow finished melting in late June early July.
the advantage that makes excavation companies work who would be unemployed in the winter.
the cleaning of a privately-owned domiciliary entrance costs annually from 250 $ to 300 $.
the cleaning of the roads in the countryside poses less of a problem a good plow and a skilful operator who does not tear all the postal boxes on the side of the road that is done well.


Small lined this night, but nothing extraordinary ..
Photos made an hour ago just to see if the 300D doping has the water going to be sortable in 15 days?
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sticky snow, wet when you walk it sinks to the knee and in the tracks there is water, snow for children to make bonhomes and igloo, the first rain it will melt and take away the l other nest below.

The clothesline is big bird feeders and squirrels

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by AXEAU » 28/02/13, 20:54

Hello Christopher,

your numbers surprise me.
I made a quick calculation that engages only me and I can be wrong.
I think that to keep clear the roads of my town on a day of bad weather it is about 3000 € 13 € / Km.
The trucks have an average speed of about 18 km / h, 7 km / h tractors and pedestrian employees ??? ..
To arrive at this figure I took the number of hours of work of all stakeholders x approximate gross wages + fuel + salt and gravel expenses all divided by kms of roads + sidewalks + esplanades + schools courses.
I did not count the depreciation of the equipment.
Even if I vary my numbers excessively, I can not get 60 € from km or 6000 € per day.

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by Christophe » 28/02/13, 21:23

AXEAU the figures are those published in the newsletter ... I too found it "big" ... forgot to specify: the 90 € / h are what is charged by a private company! Forcibly at this price it can ride at 5km / h! : Evil:

For the rest: welcome to Belgium AXEAU! : Cheesy: or rather : Cry:

"do you think" =?
Do you have more precise sources?
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by Christophe » 28/02/13, 21:29

Alain G wrote:What year are you talking about and how many cm are you getting for your commune?


This winter a priori and I think less than 100 cm cumulated ... (but many small falls since early January)

In Montreal in 2009: 15 000 $ (11 153 euros) of the Km
In Quebec in 2009: 13 000 $ (9666 euros) of the Km


It's a bill all winter long? It seems huge here we would be between 500 and 600 € / km on the season!
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by chatelot16 » 28/02/13, 22:58

you have to know what you want ... if everyone has channels we can settle for a rough snowfall ... I saw that when I was little

now the vehicles are more and more fragile, with mudguards more and more fitted to the wheels, which makes the assembly difficult

the public transport is cut to the least cm of snow ... it looks like they can not put chains ... or that they do not know ... or that they did not have the means of buy them ...

when I was little, I saw snowplows on the garbage trucks ... the rest of the year the junk trucks just had the snowplow attachment system
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