Chemtrails and contrails, what's the difference?

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by alec » 20/07/10, 00:27

I understand what you want to mean to me, but you do not answer on these "neo-clouds": more simply, these new observations (morphology and color) do they challenge you, or not?

I have nothing to sell and the many who are convinced that an anti-heating procedure is underway, either

The main thing is that as many people as possible are aware of this oddity, even if they reject the thesis: when the time comes (disclosure), everyone will take their responsibilities.
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by sen-no-sen » 20/07/10, 00:31

alec wrote:
Would it be a paranoid synchronous delirium? ...



Not really, but rather of a psycho-sociological phenomenon.
You have to cite the example of the Chernobyl cloud which would not have crossed the border, we could also cite the rather doubtful official thesis of 11/09 ... all its events have been shown Governments do not hesitate to mystify their citizens for various reasons.
Since then, and a fortiori with the emergence of the Internet, all major events have been systematically questioned by public opinion, (and that's good war!).
However, the human being, in his latent thirst for irrationality and dreams has a tendency to imagine myths and legends, and has done so since time immemorial.
Modern society although apparently rational does not escape it, only the manifestations of its interrogations have changed, yesterday witchcraft, today climate manipulation or I don't know what obscure projects!

It’s the emergence of the syndrome Matrix: believe in the incredible!
It is so exciting to believe in obscure conspiracies, in a daily subway, job, dodo, to get us out of its modern servitudes that some come to create another reality, unfortunately this deviation fact is somehow the best weapon against the latest free mass media: the internet.
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by highfly-addict » 20/07/10, 00:50

Toutafà © Sen-no-sen!

To answer the clouds, although I am not a meteorologist by training, I spend a lot of time with my nose in the air, even in the air altogether (see my avatar ... ), I did not see anything particular in this assembly: contrails, mammatus, cirrus, altostratus, lenticulars (spring clouds), pretty colors (well yes must go out in the morning or in the evening: the clouds are yellow, pink, red, orange and shhh ... I've even seen greens in the middle of the day), in short, nothing to scream or even find it bizarre.

Before going out of smoking theories, you should already inquire seriously on those that already exist and that are validated by observation!

In addition, the music is .... Image
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by bamboo » 20/07/10, 10:51

alec wrote:And your opinion on the modification of the morphology and the color (pink in particular) of the "clouds" observed from now on, the parhelia, etc ...?

See this video summary that demonstrates this true mutation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oMSQhlxiVg

And how do you analyze the profusion of videos on this topic that you see on the right column on the sharing site and provided by videographers from around the world ?
Otherwise it is atypical and new observations ... that the citizen of below films because he finds an abnormality in the sky

Would it be a paranoid synchronous delirium? ...

It would also be good to leave this qualification of "conspiracy" that I do not understand

We analyze objectivable and reproducible facts: white streaks that did not exist before

The aviation specialist: do not despise others with a pity

The Chernobyl cloud did not stop at the Luxembourg border, even though it was the position of the "zexperts" of the time!

So be careful and no diagnoses to the cookie cutter

But, rest assured: the "zecologists", even the least subservient, are silent

Only Corinne Lepage, on a forum du Nouvel Obs in april 2009 answered a question on this topic

She replied: '"Joker!" ...


I already said that I saw planes streaking in the sky le soir... It would be a little silly to fight against global warming one evening ... The clouds keep the earth's heat at night.
How to explain this Alec ?

Otherwise, ~ 30 years ago, I asked my parents what the white streaks I saw in the sky were.
I remember very well that my father replied that it was the planes that did this.
Were we already talking about global warming 30 years ago?
Was my father already the victim of "government disinformation"?

As for the clouds of various colors ... Heck then ... you mean that the sun did not set or rise before?
Have I been lied to all this time?

The profusion of videos comes from the profusion of alarmist messages which come from the profusion of bizarre "clouds" which themselves come from the multiplication of thefts ... CQFD
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by loop » 20/07/10, 13:14

Bonjour,

To further advance your thinking, ask yourself this simple question:

Why do we want at all costs that the streaks are of the spread, when to create a screen between the sun and us we just have to pass the planes at an altitude where condensation occurs.
Finding out whether these contrails are avoidable, and whether it is desirable, is another debate.

Personally, as a pilot (glider pilot), it is indisputable that these trails reduce the solar radiation which reaches the ground, and therefore reduce the power of the ancestors.

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by dedeleco » 20/07/10, 13:33

Even in the 50s to 60s, 50 years ago, as a child, I remember, the planes, fewer in number, were already doing, at high altitude, streaks of condensation and solidification, vapor of supercooled water.

So the chemtrails are rather myths, but the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq have been a military manipulation on Iraq as mythical (resulting in hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths!), And I thought always asked how the US population was able to swallow this type of lie, given the industrial capacities of the Iraqis, after the Gulf War !!

We distinguish lies and manipulations by their consistency with other facts and information !!
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by oiseautempete » 20/07/10, 13:41

loop wrote:Why do we want at all costs that the streaks are of the spread, when to create a screen between the sun and us we just have to pass the planes at an altitude where condensation occurs.
Finding out whether these contrails are avoidable, and whether it is desirable, is another debate.

Personally, as a pilot (glider pilot), it is indisputable that these trails reduce the solar radiation which reaches the ground, and therefore reduce the power of the ancestors.

A+

Gérald


With conventional propulsion technologies, the contrails are not avoidable, they exist since planes fly at high altitude and we see them very well on the photos and videos of bombers of the second world war although the volume of exhaust gas (containing water vapor) was much less than on large modern planes. Condensation can also appear in simple aerodynamic turbulences (depressions), including e.g. at the tip of a glider's pen in wet weather, but they are less visible.
The persistence of the streaks can be explained by the fact that they are ice crystals ...
The solution to avoid streaks? Flying at low altitude to avoid the formation of ice crystals by consuming a lot more fuel and subjecting passengers to thermal turbulence does not seem to be the solution : Lol:
There remains anti-gravity ... : Cheesy:
Seems that it has been around for a long time in research labs (would explain a lot of UFOs), but it remains extremely discreet ...
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by sen-no-sen » 20/07/10, 14:04

The B2 stealth bomber uses chlorofluoro-sulphonic acid at the exhaust outlet to suppress the contrails, but you would have understood it, it is not very respectful of the environment!
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by Christophe » 20/07/10, 14:06

Sulfonic? : Shock: : Mrgreen:
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by sen-no-sen » 20/07/10, 14:15

Christophe wrote:Sulfonic? : Shock: : Mrgreen:


The term used in Doug Richardson's book on American stealth aircraft.
At over $ 1,5 billion a piece it can well afford this kind of luxury.
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