Bonus Malus for cars: that explains the problem?

[martien007]

There is another "penalty": fuel and maintenance ... quite simply.

Just the tires can cost 5 6 times more expensive ... (or more for the low waist style 18 inch but it's not significant) ...

Now as you say: the guy who is paying a car to 50 000 € I think he is ready to put 2 3000 € extra maintenance per year ... the same for the sticker.

But again: the mass of small vehicles (= all of us on this forum) has much more impact than the big ones (cons for some) who roll in 4x4 / SUV ... I do not legitimize them but it is an observation. And the figures of the document found by Did prove it ...

Watch out, did67 is in the package of cons because it has a C5, but equipped with LPG, for me it is equivalent to a small one in terms of GLOBAL pollution (+ CO2 but so much less breathable pollution; like this, it will release an official study on the damage of pollution in the city on health).

Large vehicles there are still a good package and especially diesels which send their particles.

[gegyx]

"the bonus-malus was first introduced when the car was purchased, but eventually it will be annualized"

For the penalty it is the return of the sticker.

But for the bonus, is it the jackpot every year?


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[Woodcutter]

Hey Bucheron found you where the scales, according to the doc of this subject I deduce that:

Bonus:

<100 g / km: -1000 €
<120 g / km: - 700 €
<130 g / km: - 200 €

Neutral: between 130 and 160 g / km

Malus:

Between 160 and 165 g / km (!): + 200 €
<200 g / km: + 750 €
<250 (?) G / km: + 1600 €
beyond: + 2600 €

Yabon?

Yes, banania.

The scales you find them anywhere, but more particularly on the ADEME website.

It is precisely to take into account the division of the scale which is not included in the doc of the CCFA that I have explained the hypotheses that I was obliged to make, namely to cut the tranche 160 to 200 into 8, and slice 120 to 140 in two ...
I can't be more precise with the figures I have but basically it doesn't change much: the big part is made by the "less than 120 g" with nearly 164 vehicles and 000 M €. .

[Woodcutter]

[..] ps: your graph is still a bit difficult to understand, in your place I would have put the bonus in negative and in green and the penalty in red and in positive (or the reverse)

I know but I didn't want a huge graphic, nor spend 3 hours there ...

[Woodcutter]

LOL the annualized bonus-penalty = reinventing the sticker? [...]

At the end of last year, Borloo spoke of annualizing the malus only. It would be a good solution to recover a little money ...

[Christophe]

Watch out, did67 is in the package of cons because it has a C5, but equipped with LPG, for me it is equivalent to a small one in terms of GLOBAL pollution (+ CO2 but so much less breathable pollution; like this, it will release an official study on the damage of pollution in the city on health).

Do you understand Martian?

Ok lumberjack

[Woodcutter]

Ayé, modified but it is less beautiful, it shit a little ...

[Woodcutter]

[...] Do you understand the Martian yourself?

Ok lumberjack

No, I did not take Martian in 2nd language in college ...

[Christophe]

Yuck but damn kesta?

Rather put the bonuses in negative and the penalties in positive (or the reverse bury me).

[Woodcutter]

Yuck but damn kesta?

Rather put the bonuses in negative and the penalties in positive (or the reverse bury me).

Pfff ... enlarged shrunk, it fucked up and became tiny ...

Neg / Pos, I tried but the abscissa labels do not want to bar on the surface of the story, it gives me ...

Okay, I'm trying again, but it's good because it's you ...