Ban on new thermal cars in 2035: Germany changes its mind!

[Janic]

MG is already releasing electrics 10 euros cheaper than European models.

and pay 10.000 times less for their employees and slave extractors of rare earths.
It suffices that we do the same in France by paying employees 10.000 times less with a ban on expressing their dissatisfaction. The foot what!

[Forhorse]

With an average Chinese salary of 876 euros per month (with all the biases linked to an average, we agree) I would like to receive 10.000 times more in France!

[phil59]

With an average Chinese salary of 876 euros per month (with all the biases linked to an average, we agree) I would like to receive 10.000 times more in France!

I'm less greedy, 10 times would be enough for me!

[Janic]

receiving 10 or 10.000 times more salary would be accompanied by inflation of the same order and therefore back to square one. As for 875 euros on average, I think that more than a billion Chinese would like to touch them.
Here again, the wealthy countries take advantage of the countries with low, real incomes, to fatten themselves on their backs.

[Forhorse]

Anyway, I'm not sure that the cost of labor is preponderant in the cost of an (electric) car whose manufacture is ensured at 95% by robots.
The cars (thermal) Made in France of foreign brands (hello Toyota) are not necessarily the most expensive on the market and the cars of French brands with dubious reliability and manufactured abroad (Eastern countries, Maghreb .. .) are not necessarily accessible to everyone (hello Renault)

[Janic]

13/03/23, 11:37

forhorse

Anyway, I'm not sure that the cost of labor is preponderant in the cost of an (electric) car whose manufacture is ensured at 95% by robots.
The cars (thermal) Made in France of foreign brands (hello Toyota) are not necessarily the most expensive on the market and the cars of French brands with dubious reliability and manufactured abroad (Eastern countries, Maghreb .. .) are not necessarily accessible to everyone (hello Renault)

It's very fair in some ways!

[Christophe]

Lol

[Christophe]

Europe, what a joke...

[NCSH]

Europe, what a joke...

Yes, Europe is waking up!

Because France does not want to believe it!
The hyper-centralized techno-structure had as always bet on the wrong horse: the systematic electrification of uses.

And for good reason, it goes hand in hand with a 50% nuclear electricity mix, towards which, it goes without saying, the French must comply.

It should be noted that the Academy of Sciences, through the Collège de France, is milling energy prospective scenarios to achieve Carbon Neutrality in 2050 with 750 TWh of electricity consumed, not including exports, losses in the electricity network, with obviously half of the production ensured by Nuclear.
That is more than 400 TWh by nuclear reactors: at least 40 EPR or equivalent (at 10/12 TWh / year per reactor), hence the recently revealed objective of breaking the ceiling of 63 GW dating from 2015 and elsewhere voted by the Senate.

All the active forces of the French Ministries who are in contact with Brussels have recently had to fight to defend this maximalist position on the role of nuclear power in Europe, which has resulted in the creation of an Alliance of 12 European countries recently, half of which is made up of Eastern European countries, whose potential for renewable electricity production is less obvious than for the rest of Europe.

It is very often the same individuals who negotiate on multiple subjects.
And that left a corpse in the closet: the French automotive industry which, until recently (it seems June 2022) was supported by its government with regard to the extension of thermal engines (in particular via rechargeable hybrids , maybe also just hybrids ).

There are therefore more and more oppositions between 2 visions of the future of Europe, one defended by France, the other supported by Germany...
The Franco-German couple is torn apart more and more...

Fortunately, we are not like in the 40s, we can choose to be French, but to support the German vision, without risking our life.

[sicetaitsimple]

Fortunately, we are not like in the 40s, we can choose to be French, but to support the German vision, without risking our life.

I dare to imagine that this comparison is only a clumsiness?