Cash Investigation: Deadly Diesel

[Christophe]

Cash Investigation on diesel and pollution, currently on France2 with a very very committed tone that I love!

Cash Investigation investigates diesel. A documentary presented by Elise Lucet on September 25 on France 2.

Years, decades, that experts have claimed over alarming reports: diesel is a carcinogenic filth. The builders, innocent like a buttock of lamb, claim to ignore this detail. Their diesel vehicles are clean. Ecologic. Especially since the invention of the particulate filter. One would stick one's nostrils to the exhaust that one would almost believe in the mountains, daisies and butterflies. Let them say.
Frightening conclusions

Put at the foot of the wall by Elise Lucet, a Peugeot expert however refuses to suck a healthy mouthful of gas. The journalist's sarcastic smile. The Cash Investigation team scanned the angry files, encountered catastrophic doctors, carried out its own analyzes, dissected hypocritical speech in one of these rigorous investigations of which it has the secret. Ironically blasted, spiced up with bantering images, his conclusions on fine particles and nitrogen dioxide emitted by these allegedly green engines are staggering. The only difference with a general distribution of curare is that you die less quickly. Band of little guys.

http://www.lexpress.fr/culture/tele/cas ... 81436.html

Official page: http://www.france2.fr/emission/cash-inv ... 2013-22h35

Little reminder: https://www.econologie.com/forums/les-morts- ... t1901.html

[Cuicui]

Anything on water doping that helps clean up diesel engines?

[Christophe]

not obviously because far too marginal ...
I had however been contacted on this subject by telephone in 2007 or 2008 by the team of exhibits also presented by Elise Lucet ... but the report was not done.

[jonule]

whereas gasoline, "it's good for your health"! =)

joking aside, apart from the fact that diesel is more polluting than petrol ... petrol also pollutes!
we're not talking about old engines, and I must have missed gasoline / diesel pollution comparisons:

http://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie/cin ... 73733.html

http://www.consoglobe.com/moteur-pollue ... el-3966-cg

But don't you think that these investigations are only aimed at charging a tax on fuel and vehicles, given the political controversy on the subject at the moment (aborted diesel tax), rather than "solving" the problem, s is there one?

be careful, I am not defending diesel, but I am not defending gasoline or electricity either, and above all I am not saying that the main culprit of pollution is the "diesel" car, but rather the car "very short";

otherwise we could also conclude that given the fuel oil boilers that exist and which contribute to the problem (not to mention the old models again), that the solution would be the gasoline boiler, or even electric (nuclear) heating? =)

[Christophe]

Watch the Jonule report, the journalist's tone will please you! Really! To believe that he was inspired by certain subjects of this forum!

And in it we see Jean Luc Moreau who had interviewed us for this article and who fucks the mess at the Auto Show on the Renault stand about NOx

https://www.econologie.com/forums/article-ec ... t9612.html

[jonule]

in my opinion if the price of gasoline fell, rather than increasing diesel, gasoline / diesel equality would return to normal for consumer choice? ...
well I'll take the time to watch the report, I promise! =)

[Did67]

"Everything is in everything".

To be audible, it is necessary to simplify or frame the "issues".

There is a vast problem: What energies? What modes of transport?

And there is another problem:

"Why in France, does taxation favor Diesel?"

[Implied, assuming that we have been driving for several decades and for some time still mostly in a fossil fuel thermal vehicle].

The niche of "cash investigations" being to "bring to life" lobbies, it is logical that they have explored this question. There was a program on the lobbying of cigarette manufacturers ... Again, one could have imagined that the larger question would be "Why are we not in a peaceful world where no one is stressed or smokes?". ..

We cannot always make "porridge" [with the risk that by speaking of everything a little one ends up not saying much!] On the grounds that "everything is in everything" ...

On the question: "why we do not adjust the taxation by increasing the diesel as much as decreasing the gasoline", I agree.

So, indeed, is added a "fiscal agenda" !!!

[Christophe]

in my opinion if the price of gasoline fell, rather than increasing diesel, gasoline / diesel equality would return to normal for consumer choice? ...
well I'll take the time to watch the report, I promise! =)

Asked myself the same question: why line up?

Afterwards my conscience as an econologist took over!

[Janic]

Asked myself the same question: why line up?

the State must pass on the drop on one side to the increase on the other if it does not want to lose its taxes.
Good report, even if Elise Lucet had trouble distinguishing between air and particles.
It is true that the Nox problem has been evaded for 40 years; It is therefore "normal" that the polluters are the payers, both industrialists and individuals knowing the dangers of diesel in town in particular.

[Christophe]

industrialists as well as individuals who know the dangers of diesel in the city in particular.

There are around 30-40 deaths per year due to air pollution (not just cars) in France ...

Know? Bof bof ... this kind of figure is much less the news than the deaths of (in) road safety yet 10 times less!

On Econologie we talked about it ... in 2006!

https://www.econologie.com/forums/les-morts- ... t1901.html

https://www.econologie.com/les-morts-de- ... -2948.html