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by Leo Maximus » 07/10/13, 11:40

New diesel engine production lines for PSA are coming soon!

From 2017 annual production of almost one and a half million diesel engines for a category of vehicles that mainly run in cities:

http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/region/douvr ... b0n1517182
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by Janic » 08/10/13, 08:04

Hello
diesels are only real problems in cities. We must therefore stop making it a national problem when it is only linked to the urban concentration devoid of natural purifiers that are trees and vegetation in general. It is therefore the ratio between town and country that must be taken into account. The solution is of course to improve the combustion of fossil fuels (failing to be able to do without it now) but above all to rethink human concentrations ... which is not for today, nor tomorrow either . : Cry:
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by Macro » 08/10/13, 11:43

Since then I have at home a car disel equipped with a particle filter ... The test of the white cloth in the exhaust pipes is very speaking ... nothing but neni quedale ... Good smell is quite unpleasant when slowed down .. But I was loaned an almost new petrol sandero (30 km) while the diesel was at the body shop ... The smell in the jar is unmistakable, gasoline unburned in a mess..impressive. ..And driving pepere on country roads 000litres of sp6 to make 95km (I had refueled at the junk by taking it to the garage and refueling by returning it)
The 140hp diesel on the same route was 5.4l / 100 on average ... It seems logical in any case since there is almost 20% more energy in a liter of diesel ...
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by Janic » 08/10/13, 12:23

6litres of sp95 to make 66km
it's 9l / 100!
Sandero is not known to be economical, but 9l is a lot, the vehicle is badly adjusted!
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by jonule » 08/10/13, 13:43

Particulate filters are a technical trick to meet Euro Trick standards, to burn in post-combustion you need an additive, cerine oxide, a real chemical shit ... that we breathe!
it is the characteristic "bleach" odor of these "filters" which, once blocked, must be replaced every 80.000 km, with the cerine oxide tank in a 5L can ...

it's crazy that he doesn't inject water, that's for sure!
they prefer to inject a polluting (aggressive) chemical at 0.02% I don't know how much anymore, which is not counted in the particle balance but which everyone breathes, and which also ends up in nature. blue for euro 6 is also an additive, all that is powder in the eyes to make material to change later and which costs candy €€€! thanks to the € uro tip standards, of course ...

the old adage "maintenance is more expensive on diesel" is not likely to age badly, and gasoline cars not to be chosen.
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by Macro » 08/10/13, 13:58

What you expose Jonule is the French FAP ... On the VW at Mamita the FAP is cleaned by adding a sequence of post injection of diesel fuel during a very precise procedure (engine more 2000rpm during I don't know how many km) ... No cerine tank in the Teutons ...
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by jonule » 08/10/13, 15:52

ah ok i didn't know ...

these French car manufacturers are really balaize, always a complicated thing to add for after-sales service : Cheesy:
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by Did67 » 08/10/13, 16:19

The truth is a little more complex: in both cases, filtration of the gases, with accumulation of particles, then combustion of the accumulated particles, playing on the post-injection.

Cerine is a catalyst used to lower the temperature of this post-combustion ... so just to facilitate this cleaning.

Cf: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filtre_%C3%A0_particules ou http://www.techniconnexion.com/t7880-fo ... particules
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by Flytox » 08/10/13, 19:23

Hello Did67

Did67 wrote:The truth is a little more complex: in both cases, filtration of the gases, with accumulation of particles, then combustion of the accumulated particles, playing on the post-injection.

Cerine is a catalyst used to lower the temperature of this post-combustion ... so just to facilitate this cleaning.

Cf: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filtre_to_particles or http://www.techniconnexion.com/t7880-fo ... particules


There is a problem on this link, which gives the link to "filter" more than to "particle filter" and gives a nice bullshit: : Mrgreen:

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On the other hand, this one is very good:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filtre_%C3%A0_particules
and must be the one you wanted to call.
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by jonule » 09/10/13, 10:12

particle physics (big book) ... stipulates that particles, both the smallest and the largest, form aggregates between them, agglutinate, after a "certain time", thus forming particles of + in + big ... that's for the emission in the environment.
for reception, our lungs only filter what is above 1 micron. the smallest nanoparticles (eg bomb explosion depleted uranium or diesel nanoparticle unfiltered through a particulate filter) are not accepted by our filters to us, lungs, and go directly into the bloodstream through the alveoli from the lungs ... so "not all" particles can be filtered out, and the smallest always come out of the emission ... on reception ?!

for the radioactive heavy metals that are uranium cesium etc, and for the non radioactive ones like mercury, lead etc which accumulate in certain parts of the body, Prof. Bandajevski had shown at the time of Chernobyl that cures repeated at apple pectin (contained in the skin and seeds, prefer organic apples) concentrated the heavy metals of the organism and evacuated them by the traditional way of evacuation, the stools (thank you bio-gas radioactive hihi), as well measurable by lever handle ...

sorry this short off topic, but for diesel particles, how to get rid of the accumulation in the lungs? in the blood ? how to measure them?
diesel engineers would have to market the nose filter (as the Japanese invented for spring pollens) with any diesel purchased! =)

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otherwise the Wikipedia link is quite interesting:
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Filters for domestic heaters
Principle of an electrostatic precipitator for domestic heaters
These electrostatic filters were designed and developed in Switzerland (article infra).
Catalytic filter. This new particulate filter, presented and awarded in 2011 at the 12th “Salon Bois Énergie”, France21, would be particularly suitable for use in individual heating and would reduce polluting emissions from the combustion of wood fireplaces by 80%, in particular when lighting and reloading the chimneys 22,23. It works without electricity.

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never seen that, how to implement it, it's at the end of the chain, at the end of the stove, in the chimney cap? should you connect the conduit to ground and introduce a ... negative 220V electrode? ? ?
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