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by Christine » 06/06/08, 11:47

indy49 wrote:So stop bashing everything! : Evil:
It is not often that there is positive, so take advantage when there is a chouilla!

You're right Indy49. Image
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by bamboo » 06/06/08, 14:59

Christine wrote:
indy49 wrote:So stop bashing everything! : Evil:
It is not often that there is positive, so take advantage when there is a chouilla!

You're right Indy49. Image


Thank you for your support Christine
Try to convince Christophe too :D
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by georges100 » 06/06/08, 16:44

I don't know how old christophe is .... : Cheesy:
but your arguments have already served them to me at the time of the first oil shock .... so they are really relevant given their sustainability : Cheesy:
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by Remundo » 06/06/08, 16:52

Hello everyone,

I had zapped this post from Christophe

Christophe wrote:Toutafé ... the electric car for Mr Toutlemonde is currently pipo for 2 reasons, an economic one technological:

a) if you believe that theState will tolerate a kWh electric road at the same price as the domestic you dream. We have seen what the stuffing of the CNG compressor at home gave (abandoned).

(...)

The viable and sustainable solutions are 3rd generation biofuels; solar hydrogen (even if it means making electricity via a heat pump with) and ... abstinence ... A word to the wise.


Very good post, a little extreme at times, and nice cinematic reference.

it would be nice if we could do back to the future to avoid the oil crisis now :|
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by georges100 » 06/06/08, 17:14

indy49 does not relay all information : Cheesy:
with expensive oil the arab emirates are getting richer ... so have fun : Cheesy: They plan to offer gusts, roughly 3 times more than what France has ...
the problem is that their airspace is insufficient ....
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by Other » 06/06/08, 18:52

Hello
georges100 wrote:I never said that you are not honest : Cheesy:
but admit that everyone is waiting for the rise in water due to the price of fuel : Cheesy:


Water there is some except it is badly distributed on the globe (no meter in the houses here)
and those that we want more, a pump and there are huge quantities. the whole thing is not to contaminate it is a recyclable product ..

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by georges100 » 06/06/08, 19:06

You're in luck : Cheesy:
in europe we are running out of them ...
must say that next to our population your country is a desert : Cheesy:
we transport water from france to spain by boat it's not for fun ....
the meter in France has been generalized for around forty years ...
drilling is subject to authorization and very limited, and from a certain volume it is meter and payment ...
not everyone is in the same boat you see : Cheesy:
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by Other » 06/06/08, 19:36

Hello

Truth or aticle laid by petroleum?

The truth about the price of diesel: 47% of the increase is due to the explosion of the refining margins of the oil companies!

The current period is marked by a historical phenomenon: the price excluding tax of diesel is rising much faster than that of gasoline to such an extent that, despite its fiscal advantage, diesel now costs almost as much as super 95. This trend is explained by the phenomenal growth in the refining margin achieved specifically on diesel (1).

UFC-Que Choisir has calculated that, on a liter of diesel sold, the refining margin in May represents 15,7 cents. It stood at 6,4 cents in January 2008, 6,0 cents in 2007 and 2,5 cents in 1998. The increase in the refining margin alone accounts for almost half (47%) of the increase in the price of diesel since January.

This margin, which measures the refiner's remuneration for its costs and profits, was therefore multiplied by 2,4 in 4 months and by more than 6 in ten years! Conversely, the refining margin on petrol remains in its usual levels of 2 to 4 cents per liter.

This phenomenon is independent of the rise in the price of a barrel. It is explained by the tension which exists on the European market of the refining of diesel and which is maintained by the oil companies.

On the one hand, demand for diesel is experiencing relative growth because the French and Europeans favor this type of engine. On the other hand, the oil companies have under-invested in refining capacities, in particular for the category of middle distillates which concerns diesel. In the end, supply did not adapt to demand, the market is very tense and the price is soaring.

For UFC-Que Choisir, the oil companies bear a heavy responsibility in increasing the price of diesel. By not investing in refining, they have created a rationing mechanism which explodes their profit in this segment and which inflates the price for consumers. The prospects are not very attractive since the investments to come mainly concern upgrading to standards and not the creation of new capacity.

The UFC-Que Choisir asks the government that during the French presidency of the European Union, the question be asked of a revival, if necessary binding, of investments in European refining.

Finally, it goes without saying that the excessive profits made on the refining of diesel only further justify the relevance of an exceptional contribution from the oil companies.


(1): This margin is the difference between the price of a barrel of brent and the price of diesel on the Rotterdam market.


http://www.quechoisir.org/Position.jsp; ... css=ENE302

Why is kerosene aviation lower than gasiol? less refined? or different taxes.

For georges: 1000 km in the North direction nothing but Lakes one next to the other directly drinkable water without treatment, it flows towards the river at high speed if bastards do not contaminate it.

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by georges100 » 06/06/08, 20:33

i know andré : Cheesy: but we have very few rivers compared to you and there are many of us ... we pump mainly the tablecloths and it has been several years since they have been replenished ...

for aircraft kerosene there is the mass effect (the bigger you are, the more you are treated : Cheesy: ) and also a fiscal disparity between states ...
which is starting to cause problems ....
we have more and more accidents on landing and the other day a controller was talking about it on the news ...
either to gain market charge or to refuel in an economic country; the companies tend to flirt with the safety limits and when there are problems they respond to the control which wants to put them on standby "short oil" ... and it lands in a storm or in a gusty cross wind ... and the 'runway clearance becomes easy ... and anyway it keeps the planes waiting on the taiways so that they all risk being short petrol ...

the more expensive the fuel, the greater the savings, the less security there will be ...
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by Former Oceano » 06/06/08, 22:43

The emirates may be preparing their defense against the invading "American ally" which is in the process of positioning itself in force in the countries possessing the resources ...
In this case, having an armament system developed by the future potential enemy entails the risk of seeing it fail in the event of a conflict with the supplier country. Like all of a sudden all the Fxx start to bite and crash with their pilot ...
By buying Rafales, they get out of the American grip and can keep cards in case of "too much considerations" on their remaining oil.
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