The machine to cure cancer: Myth or Reality?

[elephant]

Anyway, you imagine clinical experimentation before launching a thing like that, assuming it works:

First you need to have cancerous animals, locate the tumors, treat, assess the effects. (double blind, of course)
Then test on humans, and that's where the rub is!
Because, if we have cancer patients, there are already treatments for which we know the rate of effectiveness (rays, surgery, chemo). No question of depriving subjects to test the new treatment.

And it costs millions of euros.

[I Citro]

As far as I can remember, such experiences have been mentioned, particularly in mice.
For the validity of the results and the content of the protocols ... I ignore the details.

[dedeleco]

Read on the internet the recent armada of scientific articles and summaries on
sciencedaily.com or physorg.com bbc and others
You live older and you halve the risk of cancer statistically with a healthy lifestyle, regular intense exercise, fruit, calorie restriction of 30%, etc ... and even one heals faster.
This is true for mice and rats, monkeys and us.
It is very real, almost miraculous.

[oiseautempete]

the pain-relieving effect of magnetic fields is well known, I myself use a magnet jewel that is attached to an undergarment that I put on the painful area (I have had arthritis for 20 years. ..) and it clearly reduces the intensity of the pain, without eliminating it, but from there to heal I hardly believe it ...
As for the above recommendations:
- "intense" sport must be able to do it, with polyarthritis it is excluded, unless you absolutely want to end your life with canes or even wheelchair ... soft sport (walking, swimming, that's it) is OK...
-hygiene of life ok, do not smoke do not drink and good varied and balanced food but when to reduce caloric intake by 30%: reserve that for those whose only effort at work is to type on a keyboard .. . those who really work can swallow more than 3500 calories without taking a gram of fat ...

[Christophe]

whose only effort at work is typing on a keyboard ...

Disagree, the cervo when it "heats up" it also consumes ...

So an "intellectual" worker often consumes more energy than some "manual" workers who have little arduousness?

I would especially not generalize, but obesity is more present in the working class than in executives (if we can still say that a working and middle-class worker still exists in France ... given the shit it is). . after obviously there are other factors of obesity than the effort at work ... but I still wanted to make the remark ...

Especially since your example concerns me directly

[dedeleco]

on the site
http://www.passeportsante.net/fr/Maux/P ... rthrite_pm
we find :
There is no officially recognized way to prevent the onset of rheumatoid arthritis.

Do not smoke and do not expose yourself to secondhand smoke is, for the moment, the best prevention demonstrated.

Some researchers believe that a diet balanced in essential fatty acids (omega-3 and omega-6) could play a preventive role1. The preventive effect has been demonstrated in mice whose genetics predisposed them to rheumatic diseases. See the Unconventional Treatments section for more information on the role of fatty acids in rheumatoid arthritis.
we also find :
on essential fatty acids from the same site we find:
As a result, it is generally estimated that the omega-6 / omega-3 ratio in the Western diet is from 10/1 to 30/1, while it should ideally be between 1/1 and 4 / 11,7. In addition, this excess of omega-6 impairs the optimal use of omega-3 by the body. In fact, in order to be metabolized, omega-3 and omega-6 compete for several enzymes and, to a lesser extent, for several vitamins (vitamins B3, B6, C, E) and minerals (magnesium and zinc ). An excess of omega-6 on the plate therefore prevents the body from properly exploiting its sources of omega-3. This imbalance induces, among other things, a physiological state favorable to cardiovascular diseases as well as to allergic and inflammatory disorders7. To top it all off, if a disease interferes with fatty acid metabolism, the problem gets worse. Diabetes as well as excess alcohol, tobacco or stress can cause difficulty or inability to convert ALA to EPA.

According to several experts, a return to a diet providing an adequate ratio of omega-6 and omega-3 would have a positive impact on the cardiovascular health of Western populations8,9 and also reduce inflammatory diseases10,11.

I don't know about you, but, for me I have never smoked, nor drunk too much alcohol, and loving fruits and vegetables since childhood, I have eaten them very often, and I am lucky to be able to run, pedal and climb without problem approaching 70 years.

Finally to read the site:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/search/?key ... +arthritis
or:
Why Fish Oils Help With Conditions Like Rheumatoid Arthritis How They Could Help Even More
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 142227.htm
and also :
Omega-3 Kills Cancer Cells
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 200441.htm
High Exposure To Motor Oil Increases Chances Of Developing Arthritis
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 081742.htm
This subject is very scientifically studied, but very complex.

[Capt_Maloche]

I have already read a lot about Prioré

But no other information than these last words "it's so simple ..." after his tests on mice which led to some human experimentation

Donc ...

We must also be aware of what Cancer is:

Unless I'm mistaken (please correct me if I'm wrong) cancer is a cell degeneration linked to the premature aging of cells oxidized by radiation, pollutants, asbestos, in fact, everything that will force our cells to regenerate more than normal

a cell with a capacity of 12 regeneration, then it's the catamaran

and why do we call a cancer specialist an oncologist?

Definition

Term from the Greek onkos: mass and logos: speech. Study of tumors and more specifically cancerous tumors. A tumor corresponds to the proliferation of new cells making up a pathological (diseased) tissue.

This is the result of an abnormal activity of these cells which continues for no apparent reason, the cells having a tendency to persist or increase in size. These cells have nothing to do with a possible inflammatory process. The new cells thus formed more or less resemble the original tissue where they develop and eventually acquire biological autonomy.
This autonomy (loss of physiological relationship with other components of the body) prevents their destruction by the immune system. Indeed, normal cells have a particular sensitivity to messages sent to them by the body (secretion from neighboring cells), thus preventing their excessive multiplication. Usually tumor cells are isolated and then destroyed by a healthy body through the intervention of white blood cells from the immune system.

We distinguish
1) Benign tumors: these are localized, circumscribed and non-generalizing tumors (without metastases). They simply repress the neighboring tissues without invading them and therefore have a limited volume. On the other hand, this variety of cells does not present morphological anomalies (monstrosity). These tumors do not usually cause pathological problems in the patient. Among the benign tumors, one can quote for example:

Adenomas (such as prostate adenoma)
Lipomas made up of fatty tissue
Fibroids (hard tumors)
The warts

2) Malignant tumors or cancers, the specificity of which is the significant multiplication and modification of cell morphology as well as their capacity to invade neighboring or more distant tissues (metastases). This variety of tumor is therefore completely opposite to benign tumors: in fact, they are likely to present a very large volume and are poorly demarcated. On the other hand, malignant tumors tend to recur frequently after their removal. Among cancerous tumors, a distinction is made between primary tumors and secondary tumors which are metastases.

Causes

unknown
Hereditary
Infectious (virus)
Physical: radiation (from the sun in particular, but also radiation therapy: use of rays as therapy)
Chemical substances (contained in tobacco, from industry, etc.)

Symptoms of the disease

Sometimes none, painless
Palpation of a mass when they are superficial
Compression of neighborhood organs
Change in general condition
Asthenia (severe fatigue)
Fever
emaciation

Diagnostic

Visible on x-rays
Sometimes identifiable by products from cells that have metastasized from a primary cancer (migration to other tissues) where they begin to secrete (paraneoplasia) hormones that identify primary cancers.

The laboratory
Increased sedimentation rate and C. reactive protein. However, this is not specific for a tumor. Elevation of certain markers, each being more or less specific to a particular type of cancer. Their interest lies essentially in their use for the therapeutic follow-up of tumors more than for the demonstration of the cancer itself.

Evolution
Regarding benign tumors, the evolution is generally favorable but depends on the general condition of the patient, the volume of the tumor and the organ affected.

With regard to malignant tumors the prognosis is more reserved. Complications depend on the location of the cancer and the degree of involvement. However, thanks to the use of suitable treatments (polychemotherapy, radiotherapy, surgery) certain malignant tumors now have an excellent prognosis.

Screening
It mainly applies to certain varieties of tumors such as those of the breast or the intestines. Screening should be done systematically in at-risk populations if possible in the general population. Regular palpation of the breast, blood test in the stool (Hemoccult) are procedures among others.

[oiseautempete]

I don't know about you, but, for me I have never smoked, nor drunk too much alcohol, and loving fruits and vegetables since childhood, I have eaten them very often, and I am lucky to be able to run, pedal and climb without problem approaching 70 years.

I do not drink alcohol (1 or 2 glasses of wine ... per month!), Nor smoke, I eat a lot of vegetables and seasonal fruits according to a rather Mediterranean diet, very little fatty things, never of charcuterie, protein, 100g / day, 1 to 2x per week fish and mainly poultry, wholemeal bread, no butter (I drink whole milk) ... my weight 88kg for 1.90m ... I don't know what I can do more ... and polyarthritis started around 30 years old ... By cons I have a concrete heart ...
I have an ex. co-worker who still does marathons (and on average in good condition) at 68 years old and who has always eaten anything, drunk like a hole (1 / 2L of gnole does not scare him) and also smoked like a firefighter up to 50 years ...
Remember that there has never been equality from a physical point of view, the genetic heritage has a lot to do with it ...

[Obamot]

Dedeleco: yes I saw that.
- First of all I do not understand this sentence which consists in saying that omega-6 acids would "compete" with the vit. E (since the very nature of this vitamin is linked to the presence of omega-6 ...) then foods that contain vit. "F" compete with what, since foods that contain it have varying amounts of omega-3 and omega-6? From then on it becomes very difficult to make a good dosage: in principle it is the organism which naturally takes care of regulating all this, the important thing being to avoid the carrences ... mebon.
- then what is the relationship between the role of fatty acids in rheumatoid arthritis which is a degenerative disease? None, except that the consumption of these fatty acids helps fight degeneration and is at the origin of prevention against it. It is therefore a real scandal to establish such a link. It's a bit like trying to demonstrate a "supposed" role for the vit. "C" in scurvy when it has been demonstrated for a long time that it is his only presence that guarantees to avoid catching it ... In his intellectual dishonesty, the impostor will not fail to argue that the lives. "C" could promote scurvy because this vitamin would be the source "of a certain excitement" ... which is not false but has absolutely nothing to do ... Worse: that the water would be a source of dehydration since it would be lost through perspiration (whereas it is the salt which makes it possible to fix it ... and so on).

Since the vast majority of the population is generally square in omega -3, -6, -9 acids, it would be better not to circulate this false information: the proportions from 10/1 to 30/1, VS 1/1 and 4 / 11,7 are totally fanciful => probably sponsored by agro-chemico buisness ... Because even if we could determine the real needs for a healthy subject, this element, by itself, is not enough to balance a bowl of food! And therefore does not allow conclusions to be drawn, such a reductive vision alone proves that it is fallacious amha (It lacks various contributions: vit. "A", "D", vitamin complex "B", vit. "C", vit. "F" sufficient according to general condition, calcium + physical exercise ... and some other criteria ...). The real questions are: what is the ideal weight for this or that subject in a favorable environment and with a correct diet [joke mode: ON] The weight criteria set by the WHO or the fashion industry ... I laughing ... [OFF]

..."Myth or reality?" Absolute myth, or then exclusively palliative but not preventive means, for several reasons:
- researchers have shown that cancer is a sort of body defense mechanism (a sort of ultimate chance to "compensate" for "unresolved problems" before our "final trip" ...). Experiment carried out on the diet of laboratory mice
- the psychic component which leads to variables that are difficult to control when compared to all "patients".
- the terrain which varies greatly from one patient to another in fact.
- as Capt_Maloche says, the aging process which is part of our "biological clock", as soon as the duplication / repair of cells no longer takes place well, we do not see how we could interrupt this process.

For this to really work, it would have to have achieved what some researchers want: to reverse the clockwork of cellular aging towards a rejuvenating pig (don't laugh, these are very serious studies. the prospect of a "complete" rejuvenation would not be appropriate, according to them).

Conclusion: in the hypothesis where the principle would work (and we know the importance of electrical phenomena in the human body and in chemistry) that would not solve OUR problem ... here is my opinion.

What would be much more expedient than this electric thing-gadget-thing, would be to ensure a good acid / base balance of the organism: it is much easier to achieve and is within the reach of all ... It just buy the urine test strips, which are not worth much, to test yourself.

[dedeleco]

I learn from TV news that the French salt lobbies have threatened the researcher and the media via advertisements if they informed the population of the dangers of excess salt !!!
Given the number of deaths from blood surges and the difficulty of finding industrial foods with less salt (half !!) it is very very difficult not to eat with too much salt.
Personally for more than 20 years I eat little industrial food with salt, artificial sugars and harmful hydrogenated fats (pizzas, cakes, sodas, almost everything that is packaged !!) and I bake my varied vegetables and my bread almost without salt.
Garbage food is imposed on us and it is crucial and vital to resist it even if it is more expensive (organic) and tiring, but we can eat less, throw less for the same price as when we eat too much cheap food !!.
Calorie restriction is not fun, it is scientifically proven for worms, flies, mice and rats, monkeys and finally us. Finally no need to go to Okinawa, my mother-in-law who always had a reason not to eat the meals she was preparing for us (she has a hernia in her stomach which decreases its volume), with 95 years confirms this scientific fact. His brother, who died 40 years before while drinking and smoking too much, confirms that genes are not the correct explanation.
In my opinion it is more important than CO2 for humanity in the short term. Without human CO2, 125000 years ago it was 2 to 3 ° C warmer than now, with half of Greenland melted and 3 to 5m more water in the oceans, and therefore it can happen again without Human CO2. We don't know why and we understand almost nothing.
Finally, do you know epigenetics? What even our grandparents ate has an influence on our health and it is scientifically proven !!!! A revolution, because our genetic code is much more complex than a simple computer program (4 billion years of evolution of which 600 million only multicellular, fact essential in the origin of cancer).
Fundamental reason to refuse GMOs, because they tinker in the genetic code without understanding anything, damage insured in 30 years for us. Already, hydrogenated fats, ideal because stable, non-reactive, therefore perfect for chemists, without going rancid, took a century to realize that it is a poison in the long term !!
The carrot has a hyper reactive natural anti-fungal for a chemist (triple bonds!) Which has been discovered a good anticancer !! Eat lots of raw or barely cooked carrots! It does not resist cooking.
If your grandparents have suffered a famine, your risk of problems like diabetes is greatly increased, discovered in Holland with the famine of the war of 1944.
All the more reason to take care of our little children by eating better, according to scientifically proven facts repeatedly.