Pantone engine Citroen 2cv 6

[I Citro]

I'm going to ask my colleague for the schematics, because it seems to me that the guy who does this has a website where he gives all the free details. Look for the Alpine A110 website.
http://alpinerenault.free.fr/technique/ ... melect.php
Here I sent an email to the person concerned, I wait for that answer.

Not bad link alpinerenault but the disadvantage of its variant with a train of sparks at low speed to avoid dewatering is that it changes the display on many electronic revolutions accounts that take their signal on the HT coil and thus display 3000tr / min in slow motion ...
As far as I'm concerned, I think my gasoline calculator is based on the information of the top dead center sensor (PMH sensor Hall effect) but my LPG installations, meanwhile, take the info on the coil and their calculator would be disturbed by this montage ...

[Flytox]

Bonjour à tous

A colleague electrician had mounted this ignition multi spark on his 4L Renault and said he was delighted with the flexibility and engine starts. It is taken from an electronic review (Radio Plan?) Of 20 years?









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[PITMIX]

Hello
Here is the gentleman replied, for info my colleague is nicknamed phiphi and the gentleman's name is philippe too ...

Philippe writing

Hello Peter
"Phiphi's friends are my friends" ...
Go in
http://www.alpine.free.fr
Technical tab,Forum and there you click on The kings of the hack
You will find all my articles, including the one on the AEPL, the lighting of the Phiphi
If you want to buy the complete kit for 70 €, contact Perlor Radio in Paris (I am a volunteer)
Keep me informed!
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PhL

Here is the page kings of the hack

http://a110a.free.fr/SPIP172/plan.php3

[Flytox]

Hello Pitmix

Excellent the link !!! and thank you to the boyfriend etc ... I lack time, otherwise my 103 will benefit from one of these montages.

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[buga]

hello the bows..if I remember well, of all the integral ignitions which have been tried by a friend very perfectionist in the field of motor transformer, and specialist in deuches, especially in engines, here in belgique, the W ignition is the one that gives the best possibilities of variations of advance curves, better studied than the original ones (that's not hard, hahaha), and the best value for money .. I think it turns around 130 euros, for a simple system to install, reliable and efficient ...
I'm happy with a small box as you speak, which reduces wear on screws and other things I have not memorized.
this boituier, made by a friend in moselle, for 70 euros, is connected by flying wires, and allows me to iron easily in ignition of origin, because I have no confidence in the electronics..the gain in conso or comfort of use is all made invisible on a deuche anyway pushive .. my 435 well adjusted, in a maintained deuche, walk in the same way, with or without this stuff brol ..
do not forget the human subjectivity that gives you the impression that it's better if you put a little brol on it ..
on the other hand, the vortex has admission, allows me after adjustments, to go down to 4,6 liters, with a significantly different pair ....
now I appeal to the sagacity of all ...
to run in white oil offers only a shabby interest, given the current prices ..
transform to ride heating oil as JF WADEL does with his bx gasoline, is already more appreciable ....
but let's go further ....
I think to make a kind of boiler, thermostatically, in order to diffuse the frying oil vapor, by a spacer of the kind of the simple diffusers for cars with lpg (lpg) ...
hahaha..show crazy ..
but I do not know if it can work technically, and if it is possible to obtain a correct and usable result on my dyane ... hahaha ... because of the big differences of heat existing in an engine with cooling by air .... and the difficulty of regulating the heating by the exhaust, without designing a system of variation of the exhaust simple, effective, and responding to the slightest solicitation ..., and obtaining a quantity of oil vaporized sufficient and regulated for the highs as the low regimes ?? have I already submitted to you this wacky idea ????
vaporize high pressure oil would it be possible to lower the heating temperature ??? what would heat it after spraying ???
I'm thinking about it and I'm still going to get inspired by JF WADEL's system a priori ...

[jonule]

hello buga,
figure you that my friend who has his deuche6 (not that of '57 anyway ;-) always has the idea to roll his deuche in the water ... good I already told him that a doping water has only very low performance on a petrol engine in terms of lower fuel consumption.

so that is why we are botched to do it with oil then oil of course!

I'm not into it because there are several techniques and I'm a little autyre thing, but my workshop is ready so to speak! ...

so here I know that André must know how to master this technique he speaks of prechamber reheating before feeding pantone reactor.

for the bubbler, essential I think with oil, I thought I was inspired by the regulation by thermostatic valve of "Mr. David" (link on onpeutlefaire or quanthomme).

> but you it seems to me that you are already in water doping, is that right?

PS: would you have the link for JF WADEL? -)

[PITMIX]

Hello
The antechamber of André Allows to use a home made water carburetor type venturi. It makes it possible to evaporate the eventual drop of persistent water before the entry of the reactor.
This prechambre finally gives the same thing as the Gv since there is only water mist and air to be fed to the reactor.
In my opinion the easiest way is to manufacture directly a Gv which automatically eliminates the problems of piping blocked by limestone on water carbs.
On a Deuche the exhaust heats enough to be able to install the double GV around the exhaust. Which is very simple to achieve.
On diesel it is better to integrate the tube as on the Mercos Michel (Camel1).
You say that the result on the conso is low on gasoline engine. Yes that's true if you're only doping with water.
You have to review all the fuel and ignition settings to get the best fuel economy.
On my R5 I realize that the adjustment of the carburation favors the consumption with the doping with the water but when there is more water the conso goes up.
It took me months of fuss and observation to come to these conclusions.
The golden rule is patience and also passion.

[Flytox]

Hello Buga

... the gain in conso or comfort of use is quite invisible on a deuche in anyway pushive .. my 435 well adjusted, in a maintained deuche, walk in the same way, with or without this stuff brol ..
do not forget the human subjectivity that gives you the impression that it's better if you put a little brol on it ..

Having worked at Citroën at the time, I took care of Citroën family and other Méharie. After about 5 to 6000 km it was starting to get a bit choppy and idling was shaking like a flat two-cylinder engine that only rotates on 1 cylinder. Immediate diagnosis, change the candles! She went round at once and went back to the 3 or 4 Km / hour of top speed she had lost. (a lot for a Deuch!)

When the colleague mounted the Méharie with an electronic ignition kit she never killed her candles before 15 or 20000 Km. Bigger Better visible!

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[sam17]

I found a link on JF WADEL and his diesel bx:

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/jf.wadel/invente.htm

It is interesting as a principle:

A very old system (approx 1950) was used in the TANK to be multi-fuel

I am trying to adapt it to my BX, the principle is simple, a tank which serves as a "boiler" and a float to have a constant level of the liquid

when the engine is cold, it is the electrical resistance that boils the liquid and turns it into GAS, when the engine is hot, a bypass of the heat of the exhaust pipe replaces the resistance

the carburettor is modified for the GAS, on the carburets FIAT there is only one room to return, these carbu (compatible LPG) walk by depression thanks to the venturi (on LPG there is a regulator zero bar)

when the engine accelerates, it sucks, the level goes up in the boiler, there is more contact with the heating elements so more gas vapor

on the other hand when the engine is idling, it sucks almost nothing, the level in the boiler goes down, until almost more contact of the hot elements with the liquid


in short, the gas pressure is self-regulating

Usable liquid (for a gasoline engine), vegetable or mineral oil of all kinds, alcohol of all kinds, gas oil, fuel oil, and why not gasoline, in short all the liquids that give a combustible vapor when heated.

for "loaded" liquids, provide a cleaning hatch on the boiler tank

On the other hand what is not obvious to implement this small assembly, it is to find a sufficiently powerful resistance in 12V to boil oil ...

[PITMIX]

Hi Sam
For caravanning there are resistances to heat the coffee on the cigarette lighter socket. Look at Narbonne accessories or equivalent.