Back on my doping that doesn't work !!
Here is an email exchange with hypnow which completes my decision to transfer the retrokit
jime wrote:I send you this email to express my dismay.
After many modifications on my 508, first the PVC bubbler then a steel bubbler (5% savings) bubbling temperature 65-70 ° then a 10% saving gvi, all this work took me many weeks and it's quite disappointing.
Especially since I just mounted a homemade G-Pantone on my car in 5 days including tests for a saving of 25% !!
All my results are freely available here
https://www.econologie.com/forums/dopage-a-l ... t5180.html
https://www.econologie.com/forums/dopage-d-u ... t4717.html
This subject is 17 pages long, that is to say that the digital ink flowed in 3 months, I am advised by people who get up to 30% savings from GO.
For the moment I am going to remove the retrokit of the 508 to replace it with a homemade reactor without touching my settings of GVI, nozzles and jets, I will keep you informed of the results, from there I will see if it is I who realized a bad assembly or if it is the retrokit which has a bad performance or badly studied.
First point to review, the part of the retrokit exposed to heat is not optimal, it is necessary that the reactor outlet is placed at the hottest point to allow relaxation of the gas mixture.
Have you had significant results with the PVC bubbler, personally I only reached a bubbling temperature of 30 °
hypnow wrote:As I warned you, it is difficult to predict savings
with mounting on vehicles. Some do more than 30% while
others barely 5% with the same arrangements.
To reassure you, some people have tried on camoins (PL)
without any results, apart from just an increase in power in
climb. While it is easy to make 30 to 50% on an agricultural engine
or industrial.
I offer 2 technical solutions to try to improve
results:
1) increase the exhaust gas passage section at the
reactor, because the 508D's exhaust pipe is already small and
it is now flanged by the reactor (ditto on the vito)., this
is a cause of overconsumption.
2) insulate the exhaust pipe to increase the T ° while driving and
improve the efficiency of the reactor.
Also know that we get the best results on engines
working at steady speed and load.
jime wrote:Hello,
I'm still amazed at the difference in results by comparing
the mounting I made on my Montego rover.
For the clamping of the exhaust, I doubt it, because on my car I created
voluntary restriction on reactor exit and I get 25%
saving on road and expressway, I will make a long journey tomorrow
on highway.
For thermal insulation I thought about it but always when I compare
with the results on my car knowing that the reactor is 80cm from the
collector and without insulation I don't think I will see a big
change.
I would like my results to be published on your site, because it does not appear
not clear that we can save only 5% and you warned me
once the kit ordered, I remember it very well!, if it had been
before ...
So I come to delete my retrokit to replace it with a reactor
of my manufacture, for vehicle with variable speed and load.
You will be informed of my next results and we will draw the
appropriate conclusions.
In conclusion, it is only mine, don't buy the retrokit, buy yourself a pipe instead, you can at least make music !!
I understood when I discovered their site that they had a different approach to all marketing, I was wrong.
I have prepared a template for the future reactor for the 508, in terms of the vitry c15, I still have 2-3 questions to settle about stainless steel welding. Then I will compare my results in due course and advise