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View PITMIX » 24/06/07, 17:10

It's starting to smell good : Cheesy:
35,38L for 470km with the last full. 7,52L / 100km is a reccord with this car : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
By continuing to use it as usual I manage to save money, it's a first.
All the savings previously realized (5,8L / 100km) could only be observed by making test runs at a stable speed on the motorway.
There I do not do anything for and it works.
I have never managed to have such a low conso in these conditions of use. It's been around 2 years that it turns around 9-10L / 100km.
In addition I could still roll since full 40L.
If with the next full I reach 500km it's won ...
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View gegyx » 24/06/07, 17:44

PITMIX wrote:Small savings achieved through the replacement of the car box by the manual gearbox.
The car consumes 8,5 at 9L / 100km on a small urban route.
It's still too high but it's better than the 10L / 100km permanent with the box auto.

With the GV, you have a saving of 11,5%, compared to the previous close state.
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View zac » 24/06/07, 18:43

Hello

Glad for you, but it's normal that it pays after all the efforts you made.

Try to "charge" your engine well (limit under speed) and in 1000 terminals it will be even better.

bravo continues : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:

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PS: the 600km for late July ??????????????????
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View PITMIX » 24/06/07, 19:54

In fact I suffered so much trouble that I can not believe in this result. And yet there can be no doubt.
Something unusual is happening.
The best economy achieved was made on 100km at 110-120km / h (12%).
Here I get the same economy without worrying about the use of my car. I do not roll like a savage, but not like a grandfather. Under the same conditions the counter was skotted to 380km with the auto box, and 400 with the manual box.
Whatever the reason for fuel economy is good to take. I am very happy with this outcome it is a pleasure.
Hoping to reach even better numbers.
It's my daily counter that will eventually let go :P
The 5 500 km I'm sure it's all black of dust : Cheesy:
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View Other » 24/06/07, 20:30

Hi Petmix

Congratulations, you have finally honed your reactor :D :D : Cheesy:
now you have to know why this is improved? you must have doubts, it remains to make verifications ..
But soon you will see that it will not satisfy you anymore, you will want more ..
The hot and humid summer period is conducive to breaking records.
Now that you have the right parameters do not change several things at once ..
Take the temperature out of the reactor, you will see that it heats up faster than before at low speed and that you will manage to make the reactor run on small paths.
From time to time operates the reactor with little water and more depression to heat it harder ...
The number of kilometers traveled on a tank is significant.
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View PITMIX » 25/06/07, 07:39

Andre wrote:The number of kilometers traveled on a tank is significant.
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hi Andrew
That's what made me stay pessimistic so far.
I obtained savings by making very precise comparisons. Too precise. But using the car normally, I never got anything.
The only thing I would have to do now is find a good pipe fitter to make an impeccable reactor.
Copper brazed on the steel of the exhaust tube of a gasoline engine does not last long.
I would need a piece all stainless steel to be quiet.
I can not measure the water consumption because there are seeps.
I spoke with Cedric "Muzo31" on the forum.
He has just invested in a LPG kit for his Renault Rodeo.
500 € on Ebay.
It's very good as a modification for old cars.
I do not know if it would be worth it on a car like mine. This is not a collector car and it's the price of the car.
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View Other » 25/06/07, 16:18

Hi Pit

For an old car that you use little it's not worth investing, unless you do this on an experimental basis.
But you already have the reactor to refine if you add something else it does a lot of things to measure together, I've been since I started walking oil 100% it makes it difficult to measure consumptions is the improvements.

When I want to make good measurements I make a trip only to diesel and I measure the oil market is more a curiosity than anything else. It is necessary to think of all the 300km to fill the small rear tank it is necessary to decant the oil and to handle it with a fear of doing damage in the trunk.

For your reactor, the tube must not be made of galvanized steel or electrolyzed, the tube must be black uncoated steel, if you use your vehicle very little that stays stopped often uses a stainless steel tube, but it is not an obligation ..
you weld a tube reactor with the two ends threaded pipe 1 / 2 in this way you can dismount screw anything at the end
For brewing if it is a strong brew, made by oxyacetylene torch with brass rods, a good thick bead this should resist (formerly I repaired cast iron exhaust manifolds that was cracked and it resists)
the reactor must be well adjusted and mechanically tightened if you want to do it at the solder.
Although I recommend you to solder it to electric steel, to the baguette if you have nothing else, or to the MIG most small garages weld the exhausts with that (prepare the well-fitting piece and make the weld by a guy who knows how to weld a 1 / 4 hour job)

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View PITMIX » 12/07/07, 23:24

Hello
7,42L / 100km on the last full it is still in the same numbers is good : Cheesy:
I found gas vouchers from January 2006.
I had consos 8,5L / 100km seeking the economy on highway.
It was winter where I absolutely wanted to make it work. I did many miles to test and the full ones were spaced a few days apart.
At that time I went to the end of the tank since the quantities of gasoline 38 indicate 39L for 420 450km traveled.
Right now I refuel around 35L for 450 480km on the counter. So without forcing and in conditions not favorable to the economy.
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View PITMIX » 30/07/07, 21:44

6,8L / 100km. It's the last full of the month of July.
I did not reach the goal that Zac predicted me (600km) with the full but I passed the 500km bar.
526km with 35,95L to be exact.
I still have trouble getting there. It's nice to see that so much effort has ended up giving something that works every time.
The only problem is that I have done so much on this car that I would not say what gives the most result.
As they say "it is only the result that counts." : Cheesy:
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View elephant » 30/07/07, 21:54

yeah! In other areas, this is called bad medicine: you order 5 or 6 drugs, there will always be one that will serve something.
In the end, it is quite pernicious enough for a real specialist to notice an antagonistic effect: for example, there is an antidiarrheal drug that aggravates Parkinson's disease.

But it's obvious that you can not afford hundreds of trials. We are very happy that you have arrived at something interesting.
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