Doping an internal combustion engine with water vapor

[Flytox]

Beautiful diagram! But the steam will easily arrive compared to the fresh air entering the reactor.

The variable power supply of the mini compressor would perhaps be better managed according to the engine revolutions than by the accelerator cable (?).

I do not really see why the mixture would not be roughly homogeneous. There will be enough flow in a relatively confined space to mix this mixture to a minimum. We can assume that there will be air saturated with water + micro water droplets + water vapor which will appear together at the level of the chamber before the rod. It will be great to know, if the proportions change and in what direction, during the different uses of the engine. If someone has a simple economic and feasible idea to quantify all this ... hush taker.

For coupling steam production with load or speed. For me the debate is not settled and I intend to try the 2 versions. Finally, at first, it will be at "fixed parameters" that I will vary the air flow in the bubbler to try to draw a trend ... not obvious without precise instrumentation

[gildas]

I don't know if you do the same camel 1, fresh air entering the reactor.

I allowed myself to modify your diagram, with a 3-way valve at the outlet of the mini blower to also push the fresh air.
could make the intake venturi not useful.

[Flytox]

Indeed, your bypass is a good way to vary the air / vapor ratio. Thank you Gildas .

For the venturi, there is the suction function in the reactor to increase the gas flow and .... can also act on the steam with the vacuum which shifts the dew point ...

Even with the mini compressor, I will have to try other venturis, especially with a larger diffuser angle than the one I used until now (7 °).

[gildas]

Hello,
Christophe wrote: (HVB Pantone eco-mobile project)
https://www.econologie.com/forums/projet-hvb-pantone-econolomobile-t1127.html

Your project is very good! Doping with water + HVB is the top in my opinion! (some tractors ... whose famous 22 already work according to this recipe)
On the other hand, according to your diagram, I don't think that the reinjection of the exhaust gases really brings you anything (and as you have drawn it it will probably only work in suction ... so it will simply " pollute "your bubbling water) .... especially if you cool them. Basically it is used to promote bubbling? The problem with the exhaust reinjection are 1) very hard settings and 2) precisely suppressions and collisions ... with risk of hydraulic tightening (for example if the reaction time / sensitivity of your valve is too low ... )

So I think you can remove all the exhaust gas reinjection part

The EV of bubbler heating is also over-inflated. The bubbler will never be too hot believe me

Quote maybe more in vogue, if not on this video (Gillier-Pantone, but on petrol engine), the use of exhaust gases is interesting because good functioning and obviously the depollution is almost complete,even at low engine speeds / low loads:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntTrXBYdNQs

[Flytox]

Unfortunately the image or diagram of the link

https://www.econologie.com/forums/projet-hvb ... t1127.html

disappeared, it's no longer too understandable

For the video with the deudeuch,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntTrXBYdNQs

it is not very informed to take it for cash ...

[gildas]

A little more info on the deudeuch:

http://www.quanthomme.info/qhsuite/GillierPantoneDe2004a2010/aut2.htm

[Flytox]

The size of the bubbler is substantial, it is cleverly mounted. When you have room under the hood ..... it's really much better to express your ideas.

[gildas]

Hello,

About the owner of the 2 cv, he managed to operate his panton mower without rod!
(see written comment)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQWT8lz9mLM

[Flytox]

Several have already arrived at this result of walking without a rod, it remains to be seen whether it works the same and with fuel savings.

In any case, the short tests are not representative, when the tank is unique for water and petrol the lightest fractions of petrol evaporate quickly and after a few minutes only the heaviest fractions. This requires a different air setting and if the mower stalls, it will no longer want to restart with this mixture. So emptying the tank .... saving fuel ?????

The 70% water 30% gasoline mixture is the proportion it puts in the tank and not that consumed by the engine .....

[gildas]

In any case, the short tests are not representative, when the tank is unique for water and petrol the lightest fractions of petrol evaporate quickly and after a few minutes only the heaviest fractions. This requires a different air setting and if the mower stalls, it will no longer want to restart with this mixture. So emptying the tank .... saving fuel ?????

The 70% water 30% gasoline mixture is the proportion it puts in the tank and not that consumed by the engine .....

Indeed, the gasoline evaporates first for start-up as Mr Donzeau says, but subsequently the water is broken down into HHO by the reactor "It is rocket fuel" he says, which would explain the saving of more than 50% of gasoline.

Besides, this reaction could not occur if the reactor is not under vacuum, for example: if the exhaust gas valve is too open (?).

The micro-storm effect (ionization?) Would be greater by recycling the exhaust gases?

Quote:

So the exhaust gas pushes, the reactor sucks, and the better the suction, the lower the vacuum, the greater the relative vacuum, the faster the gas speed, the more efficient the reactor.
http://quanthomme.free.fr/qhsuite/GillierPantoneDe2004a2010/SystemesPantoneFranceMemo.htm

(I put you in the wrong by doubting the use of the venturi in your last diagram!)

Do not understand that Christophe had only 5% fuel savings with his generator!

The assembly of the mower of Mr. Donzeau also uses iron, or this metal is capable of decomposing water to 100 Degree (Bottom of page) which can increase the perfs.



I can't wait to make a Pantone to check it all out!