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Re: Cancer seen by regenerates




by Janic » 25/03/23, 20:51

obamot
You can argue while denigrating my modest skills or those of Janic, but you would be ruined in less than two (like Izentrop who develops avoidance strategies so as not to have to answer me, knowing very well who he has to deal with ...)
like his alter egos, ABCile, Izmenteur and other hidden like pedro, he does not know how to answer with clarity on this kind of subject, he only knows how to denigrate on the form since unable to do it on the bottom like the other weaklings of his sect of pseudo carnival zeteticians!
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Re: Cancer seen by regenerates




by Obamot » 25/03/23, 20:57

I edited ad personam / hominem attacks as it is, and as they obviously do not respond on the merits, and above all out of respect for Remundo's warning and Christophe's wish for appeasement.
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Re: Cancer seen by regenerates




by sicetaitsimple » 25/03/23, 21:01

Janic wrote:he only knows how to denigrate on the form since unable to do it on the bottom


The bottom is 39 € / month....
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Re: Cancer seen by regenerates




by Obamot » 25/03/23, 21:10

And rather than trying to answer honestly on the merits, here's another one of your
Remundo wrote:psychological trickery
in its reductive aspect to the extreme for the purpose of denigration and belittlement...
A guy can do online training, does that stop him from asking good questions...? Certainly not!

I'll let you know that you're stuck again.
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Re: Cancer seen by regenerates




by sicetaitsimple » 25/03/23, 21:16

Obamot wrote:I'll let you know that you're stuck again.

It will definitely keep me awake! :D
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Re: Cancer seen by regenerates




by sicetaitsimple » 25/03/23, 21:36

Janic wrote: A little explanation for the simpleton!
A function of this site makes it possible to put on hold if a new message intervenes during its own writing, new message which can be consulted and thus, rather than to make two posts, it is enough to add an additional comment before posting definitively.

My dear Janic.. Yes, I know the "Edit" function, which allows you to correct spelling mistakes or modify a sentence, or even add one... Some (whom I won't name) are moreover specialists, with up to 4 "Edit" fairly regularly, proof that they do not necessarily have very clear ideas.
But this is (to my knowledge) the first time I've seen an answer posted before the post that follows!
You are a pioneer! :D
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Re: Cancer seen by regenerates




by Janic » 26/03/23, 10:16

25/03/23, 22:01
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he only knows how to denigrate on the form since unable to do it on the bottom
The bottom is 39 € / month....
but you're right, on the bottom § The bottom (of trade) of a contracted doctor, it is, for the moment, 25 E per consultation, much more for the others and hundreds of thousands for BP all paid by our contributions and mutuals. and it costs much more than 39 E per month.[*]
But this is (to my knowledge) the first time I've seen an answer posted before the post that follows!
You are a pioneer!
someone has to get out of the usual simpleton conformism.

The average expenditure of a patient admitted to ALD for colon cancer was €28 in medical care direct during the 14 months following the diagnosis
plus everything else! i.e. 62 years of subscription annual

The average price of one month's treatment with an anticancer drug from the list in addition for a patient weighing 70 kg for 1,70 meters is approximately 3 euros (minimum: 866 euros and maximum: 386 euros). Ipilimumab is the drug with the highest monthly treatment price.
i.e. 500 months of monthly subscription
plus the rest!

This is a lifelong treatment, which costs between 2 and 270 euros per month depending on the dosage, or up to 3 euros per year
Plus the rest! i.e. 1.000 monthly subscriptions

https://www.quechoisir.org/actualite-no ... 20par%20an.
In cancer, new drugs generally only last a few weeks longer, not healing. And sometimes at the cost of undesirable effects heavy. But the improvement, even minimal, of the survival time, gives enough confidence to the laboratories to ask for astronomical prices. Even when the drugs did not require significant investment in research and development.

Rising costs
Two-thirds of respondents fail to estimate the cost of immunotherapy. A course of this innovative treatment costs between 80 000 and 116 000 euros.(between 2050 and 2900 months of subscription) These new treatments are however relatively publicized, but only 3% of French people were able to answer correctly. Pr Thierry Philip, president of the Institut Curie explains that: "Cancer drugs, which cost 3 billion euros (out of the 16,5 billion spent by health insurance) globally increase by one billion every year."

https://www.medisite.fr/a-la-une-combie ... .2035.html
Hum! There's good big business!
etc... if you dare to consult all the sites which speak about it.

On the other hand, how much does a month of fasting and a change in lifestyle cost society?
0 euro, dollar, ruble or pound.
Return to your niche the mental simpleton!
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Re: Cancer seen by regenerates




by Janic » 27/03/23, 08:56

and the simpleton is nailed his GG because these pharaminous costs of his BP; its bosses, are not comparable to 0 euros and even to these 39 euros monthly which save lives lost by BP. That is nearly 160.000 dead annually, in France[*], in unacceptable suffering of the patient and his family environment.
Small family statistical example expands: 9 cases of cancer and leukemia recognized by doctors! 6 deaths treated and 3 cases in provisional remission including 2 treated recently. We will see in a few years the final results!

[*] officially leading cause of death.
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Re: Cancer seen by regenerates




by sicetaitsimple » 27/03/23, 12:42

Janic wrote:and the simpleton got his GG nailed...


And this pov 'Janic to certainly imagine that ending his previous post with "Return to your niche the mental simpleton!" will encourage the interlocutor to answer!
Yes, you've "knocked my ass off", I have no desire to respond to a cantankerous old gaga who only knows how to spit out his daily insults and repeat his obsessions endlessly.
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Re: Cancer seen by regenerates




by Janic » 27/03/23, 14:01

Janic wrote:
and the simpleton got his GG nailed...
simpleton
And this pov 'Janic to certainly imagine that ending his previous post with "Return to your niche the mental simpleton!" will encourage the interlocutor to answer!
Yes, you've "knocked my ass off", I have no desire to respond to a cantankerous old gaga who only knows how to spit out his daily insults and repeat his obsessions endlessly.
Typical example that you close your GG, not with respect to me, but to all those who are interested in the subject and who would like to know enough to make personal choices and not imposed by your deadly chemistry friends .
because you skipped the rest of my sentence:
(...) because these staggering costs of its BP; its bosses, are not comparable to 0 euros and even to these 39 euros monthly which save lives lost by BP. That is nearly 160.000 deaths per year in France[*], in unacceptable suffering of the patient and his family environment.
That must interest a lot of people knowing that today or tomorrow everyone can be concerned!
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