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A little dream: bamboo house




View elephant » 13/12/15, 09:30

Of course far from our usual consideration the heating and insulation (except for moisture resistance: bamboo resists very good), a bamboo dream town:

http://www.survivre-au-systeme.fr/2015/ ... le-bambou/

:D

But what do you f .... still here?
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View izentrop » 13/12/15, 09:40

elephant wrote:Of course far from our usual consideration the heating and insulation (except for moisture resistance: bamboo resists very good), a bamboo dream town:

http://www.survivre-au-systeme.fr/2015/ ... le-bambou/

:D

But what do you f .... still here?
You've asked the rental price ???
All the comforts in the jungle, it's very easy for people survivalism :P
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View Obamot » 13/12/15, 17:15

Bamboos are the preferred bolus of eating insects ...

They are treated with fungicides, but I would hate to be there when their effect will be gone ... Paradise will become a nightmare.

I know this place, whenever they can, the natives replace everything they have in wood or bamboo with cement, otherwise it is a never-ending story of repair. As Izentrop says, it is a site for wealthy tourists.

Finally to dream it would be better for there to be a habitat papercrete, according to the idea given by Ahmed (which are light and isolated cement blocks). That's what I would try ...

But it's pretty, yes and it makes you dream. I had my "bamboo" period I went for a week on vacation to Les Baux de Provence in wild camping, I had brought full bamboo on the roof of my car and left it parked in the street below my house at my return 1'000km round trip: the next day there was nothing left, they had been stolen from me during the night!
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View elephant » 13/12/15, 18:24

Obamot said:

they had stolen me overnight!


That! when trying the devil : Mrgreen:

The papercrete looks very nice:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liant_papier (especially since it is composed of 20 30% sand, but it does not seem to be super humid or compression:

http://www.greenhomebuilding.com/papercrete.htm
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View Obamot » 13/12/15, 18:48

I was young at the time, I was a little over twenty years (I am less) ...

A year later I went to Paris and I had an accident with my BMW, I walked into the ass of an ambulance : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

More NEVER BMW, but hey, she was still driving ... On the way back I stole a nap in the woods of the suburbs (I had wrapped myself in my sleeping bag, the doors of the vehicle locked, I could not see my head) suddenly I was awakened by a group trying to get into the vehicle, I did not move, then I heard:
- "veins within it may be flat"(and indeed they left ... with open hearts ...)

Not have time to be scared (but never lost money in a wood ... or camping bamboo quest).

: Cheesy:
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View dedeleco » 14/12/15, 16:26

Obamot attracts bad luck !!

Having slept outside by car, caravan, even in the middle of lost corners, in Yugoslavia of Tito, I have never been attacked, it is true in BMW of Switzerland very rich, one draws the flights more, than in 4CV, in the same era !!!!

To return to the subject deflected by Obamot, no need to lug bamboo thousands of km, they grow on site, as in my garden soon and useful for sin, light, for free with perch after a saw or pruning shears, to cut even the big branches 6 m up in the air, without risk of falling from a scale in unstable balance (what never do the pros, still flush with the limb may fall on them ) !!
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View Ahmed » 14/12/15, 19:20

Bamboo seems a sustainable material in our country and it is normal that this is not the case in its environment of origin: nature recycles everything!
I remember a mill that had problems with his sieve bolting flour: the system is fixed on rods and movement is quite similar (as far as I understood) to that which is done manually ; she tried different grades of steel, composite materials, glass fiber, nothing long resisted and ultimately are simple bamboo stems that have proven to be the solution!

@ Elephant; you write:
... But it (the papercrete) does not seem to be super wet or compression

It is highly resistant to moisture and alternating dry (like wood), but the foundations need to be isolated by rising damp proof membrane (or made of another material, as is the case of mud and straw); it is the fault of its quality is to be sweating ...
For resistance to compression, it depends on the proportion of sand and binder. This is not always a determining factor, as in the case of low buildings or used in coating on a base earthbags.
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View Obamot » 14/12/15, 19:35

The lift does not have any importance in certain applications, it is not what one seeks for this type of material in the majority of the cases (it is its insulating properties which are in perfect opposition with the "law of mass ")

Thus in all these cases, the support structure is provided by pillars and beams in construction / seismic foundations! They can even be made of steel profiles (which must be insulated in turn and therefore lie recessed relative to the front panel).

I am now moving towards even lighter concrete, papercrete made of aerated concrete with a finely ground and airy mix of limestone and polished slate, which will first form a soft mineral foam (oven-proof). steam) with a proportion to be determined of cellulose flake in it. What do you think Ahmed, it does not seem to me chemically incompatible ...?
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View Ahmed » 14/12/15, 19:47

I do not comment myself on the chemical compatibility of your mix, but what seems curious to me is that you want to finely grind the cellular concrete?
By doing so, you destroyed the cells that contain air and that is the whole point of cellular concrete ...
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View Obamot » 14/12/15, 20:28

And why not bamboo fagots, constituting the essence of the inside of pads of paperconcrete, the latter serving as a coating (a bit like the concrete around reinforcing steel) is 2cm outside and the rest of bamboo coated inside, and I think we can make it thinner by first making a cellulose wadding with very fine fiber that will go perfectly with the whole.

And better than studs (thermal conductors too) why not thick enough bamboo walls with a thick coating in paperconcrete (and assembly mortar ditto)?

For cellular concrete we misunderstood, here is its composition:

WIkipédia wrote:Aerated concrete is a finely ground and aerated mixture of limestone and polished slate, which form first a soft mineral foam in the steam oven. Once implemented by autoclave cured form hot without significant dimensional shrinkage, then baked and dried, it traps through the inorganic network of calcium silicate hydrates containing tobermorite (in), and finally stably a high proportion of air and gas in said cell structure, which gives good properties in terms of thermal insulation and lightness.

Composition of materials to make lightweight concrete:
About 64% of siliceous quartz sand
About 21% cement (cpj32,5)
About 15% lime
About 0,05% of aluminum powder or paste
About 1% gypsum
Some water

But on the one hand, the implementation seems complicated to me for emerging countries whose populations do not have a very developed "technical culture", and on the other hand the industrial facilities to carry it out cannot be found. hardly on the spot.
If luckily there was one, I would hardly see myself asking them to "experiment to change their mix" ( : Mrgreen: )
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