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Unread Messageby Janic » 10/01/19, 17:07

http://www.cancer-environnement.fr/239- ... es.ce.aspx

and finally, be a great connoisseur of some subjects, why not? but on the whole it is necessary to be super balaize, which is not noticeable according to its hardly scientific approximations.
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We notice the same process with anti-vaxx. The recent (and very stupid) a decision of the European Court of Justice to show a link between hepatitis B vaccine and multiple sclerosis is a good example (although its decision is very nuanced). In the following weeks, several anti-vaxx associations announced that they would file a complaint against the vaccine manufacturers based on this decision. When you can not beat scientific veracity, then your only chance is to move the fight in the field of ideology and legal.
If this is not a value judgment on the CIC on the one hand, Portier (so on the pedigree of the person) and a comparison with what he should not know more than the rest as on the Hepatitis B.
So a bundle of nonsense and counter truths.
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Unread Messageby Exnihiloest » 10/01/19, 21:29

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and finally, be a great connoisseur of some subjects, why not? but on the whole it is necessary to be super balaize, which is not noticeable according to its hardly scientific approximations.

A non-"super balaize" does not include anything to a "super balaize".
But he is a non-Balaize "super balaizes" that he does not even understand.
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A non-"super balaize" does not include anything to a "super balaize".
But he is a non-Balaize "super balaizes" that he does not even understand.
which is obviously your case!
This guy like you is a fake news spreader who wants to appear by name (at least that 's a positive point) to be an influencer like others for fashion or discount models. Except he does not know anything about certain things like you do. JJRousseau said: "Ignorance has never hurt; the error alone is fatal; we do not go astray because we do not know, but because we think we know. "
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Unread Messageby Moindreffor » 11/01/19, 08:39

Janic wrote:JJRousseau said: "Ignorance has never hurt; the error alone is fatal; we do not go astray because we do not know, but becausewe think we know. "

you are absolutely right, all those who believe go astray, so as you believe more than you prove, you go astray for once I agree with you
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Janic wrote:
JJRousseau said: "Ignorance has never done any harm, error alone is fatal, we do not go astray because we do not know, but because we think we know."
you are absolutely right, all those who believe go astray, so as you believe more than you prove, you go astray for once I agree with you
What would I have to prove? That chemicals are poisons? It's the BA Ba of biology, not chemistry! Once again you confuse chemicals for industrial use such as paints, plastic chairs or other uses and chemicals that attack the living whether with a weed killer, a deodorant or a jar of jam. until you understand the difference .... !!!! "all those who believe go astray, so as you believe more than you prove"the proofs or suspicions are brought by the scandals that are multiplying and denounced in the world where omerta, French way, does not exist (except in totalitarian countries ... are we too?) and that try to hide or minimize the manufacturers who produce these poisons.
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Unread Messageby Moindreffor » 11/01/19, 14:13

Janic wrote:
Janic wrote:
JJRousseau said: "Ignorance has never done any harm, error alone is fatal, we do not go astray because we do not know, but because we think we know."
you are absolutely right, all those who believe go astray, so as you believe more than you prove, you go astray for once I agree with you
What would I have to prove? That chemicals are poisons? It's the BA Ba of biology, not chemistry! Once again you confuse chemicals for industrial use such as paints, plastic chairs or other uses and chemicals that attack the living whether with a weed killer, a deodorant or a jar of jam. until you understand the difference .... !!!! "all those who believe go astray, so as you believe more than you prove"the proofs or suspicions are brought by the scandals that are multiplying and denounced in the world where omerta, French way, does not exist (except in totalitarian countries ... are we too?) and that try to hide or minimize the manufacturers who produce these poisons.

the scandal is that, without being able to prove the harmfulness, we are diverting the debates in other fields, for lack of scientific proof we are moving the debate towards popular belief because there is no need for proof, just people who know how to speak loudly with a good charisma, we are no longer in the rule of law when we become judges and
Al Capone, unable to be convicted for his crimes, was convicted of tax evasion ... it made school
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the scandal is that, without being able to prove the harmfulness, we are diverting the debates in other fields, for lack of scientific proof we are moving the debate towards popular belief because there is no need for proof, just people who know how to speak loudly with a good charisma, we are no longer in the rule of law when we become judges and
bad example!
I'm asking for official proof of the vaccines for you, Exnimachin and Izentrop, and none of you have been able to bring any, the smallest.
Al Capone, unable to be convicted for his crimes, was convicted of tax evasion ... it made school
This is indeed the case of the food and pharmaceutical mafia, it actually made school. but as they are clever and powerful, they have succeeded in America and it starts in France, to enact laws protecting labs from future lawsuits for side effects and the whole population will pay for them. No lab, despite all the deaths caused by toxic products from their factories has never been sentenced to criminal, while anyone poisoning another will end up in prison: Two weights, two measures!
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the scandal is that, without being able to prove the harmfulness, we are diverting the debates in other fields, for lack of scientific proof we are moving the debate towards popular belief because there is no need for proof, just people who know how to speak loudly with a good charisma, we are no longer in the rule of law when we become judges and
Janic wrote:bad example!
I'm asking for official proof of the vaccines for you, Exnimachin and Izentrop, and none of you have been able to bring any, the smallest.

you are asking for proof of what?
Al Capone, unable to be convicted for his crimes, was convicted of tax evasion ... it made school
Janic wrote: This is indeed the case of the food and pharmaceutical mafia, it actually made school. but as they are clever and powerful, they have succeeded in America and it starts in France, to enact laws protecting labs from future lawsuits for side effects and the whole population will pay for them. No lab, despite all the deaths caused by toxic products from their factories has never been sentenced to criminal, while anyone poisoning another will end up in prison: Two weights, two measures!

the difference and she is tall, a person who poisons another is a murderer, no one has ever forced anyone to use glyphosate, so when you use a product you do it by choice, it is good Marked that glyphosate is an active chemical and it is accompanied by precautions of jobs, so to choose to use such a product is to choose to expose oneself, do you use it? NO, so you made your choice, everyone is responsible for his choice, easy after to postpone his bad choices on others

and if you do it by obligation you can turn against the one who imposed this choice, Mosanto or the vaccines lab do not impose their products, they are the governments that authorize them (glyphosate) or impose them (vaccination) but who attacks governments, no one, we attack the companies to hope to withdraw a few cents

we authorize the sale of cars that run at more than 180 km / h it's deadly, must we attack all car manufacturers and yet there is proof of dangerousness, without a shadow of a doubt, so the fights are well oriented
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bad example!
I'm asking for official proof of the vaccines for you, Exnimachin and Izentrop, and none of you have been able to bring any, the smallest.
you are asking for proof of what?
Are you blind or voluntarily blind?
I will re-repeat, evidence of the usefulness, effectiveness and safety of vaccines because no vaccineologist ever could prove the effectiveness of vaccines that would have saved millions of patients . The labs had counted on the only GLOBAL smallpox vaccination campaign that made a masterful flop and yet vaccinologists (who did not read the WHO report on the global eradication of smallpox and vaccination did not was there for nothing) continues to attribute this success to vaccines. And same thing for all the others? So no proof!
Janic wrote:
This is indeed the case of the food and pharmaceutical mafia, it actually made school. but as they are clever and powerful, they have succeeded in America and it starts in France, to enact laws protecting labs from future lawsuits for side effects and the whole population will pay for them. No lab, despite all the deaths caused by toxic products from their factories has never been sentenced to criminal, while anyone poisoning another will end up in prison: Two weights, two measures!

the difference and she's big, a person who poisons another is a murderer, no one has ever forced anyone to use glyphosate, [/ quote]
Inaccurate! Consumers do not choose to consume glyphosate but so when you use a product you do it by choice, but it is imposed on them by the farmers who use it.
Glyphosate is an active chemical and it is accompanied by precautions of use, so to choose to use such a product is to choose to expose yourself, do you use it? NO, so you made your choice, everyone is responsible for his choice, easy after postponing his bad choices on others.
Except, again, that the farmer IMPOSE to consumers his products without consulting them (but he is not the only one of course)

and if you do it by obligation you can turn against the one who imposed this choice, Mosanto or the vaccines lab do not impose their products, they are the governments that allow them (glyphosate) or impose them (vaccination), but who attacks the governments, no one, we attack the companies to hope to withdraw a few cents

It's a little more complex than that. Off situation as currently with conflict of interest of the minister, usually the ministers of health are characterized by their incompetence on the subject (it is better for the lobbies). So these lobbies seek to first influence physicians through their medical visitors, with some gifts at the key for some to influence positions.
Doctors who have been trained on certain subjects by specialists (courses, documentation, conferences, etc ...) from lobbies, for example vaccines. Course duration on this subject in a curriculum from 9 to 12 years: 4 max.
After having been vaccinated obligatorily on certain diseases, obviously, if not not accepted. It's called getting into the mold of conformism.
Governments are only the last resort in regulating the way in which health should be organized. When the national assembly, the Senate, has enough doctors in their breasts, some laws that depend on majorities, changing, in place will be legislated to make or not certain vaccines mandatory or optional. So the national assembly passed the law on compulsory vaccines with only 75 deputies present on 577 and 63 voted for: democracy in motion.
http://hippocrate-et-pindare.fr/2017/10 ... ete-votee/
But any obligation entails a responsibility of the State for compensation for the side effects that caused damage and the changeover to 11 vaccines is assumed to weigh even more heavily for the State. Except that the trick is to disempower the State by an organization called ONIAM avoid court proceedings. The compensated individual can not then return to the responsible (laboratories, doctors, the State) if the side effects appear late. Operation in the American!
we authorize the sale of cars that run at more than 180 km / h it's deadly, must we attack all car manufacturers and yet there is proof of dangerousness, without a shadow of a doubt, so the fights are well oriented

Yes it is an aberration, but as the limit is 50, 80 and 130, builders except default have nothing to fear, any more than the labs!
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