# Resonance of water by JC Dumas?

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izentrop
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Hello,
It's the same experience as that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiNTanZ7S8
Dangerously irresponsible.
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Gaston
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Christophe wrote:Then the 2nd assessment is tarabiscoté!

When we take stock, we multiply a power by seconds ... not Wh by h in seconds!
Well yes, since 1 J = 1 Ws
So 1W.h = 3600 J ...

However, the calculation presented is wrong: 206 * 3600 = 741600

Christophe wrote:206 Wh over 7 minutes gives a power of 206 * 60/7 = 1765,7 W or an energy over 7 minutes (of 60 seconds) of 1765,7 * 60 * 7 = 741594 Joules ... it comes down to the same but we already sees that the result varies a little ...

(206 * 60/7) * 60 * 7 = 206 * 60 * 60 * 7/7 = 206 * 3600
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Hi Christopher,

I did not understand the history of primary energy and the 150%. Otherwise, actually, given the conditions, a 16% measurement error does not seem impossible.

What did they have to measure power? Indeed there may be a pb of cos phi. Maybe the utility of the different mechanisms of "superunitary" machines is biased cos phi? The same goes for measuring the temperature of the water. As you say Christophe it is necessary that this evening very homogeneous.
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Well yes, when we see the video, we quickly look for measurement errors, very easy in alternative.
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ARMAND
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## Dumas system ...

It is indeed a pumping of the idea of ​​DAVEY, of direct decomposition of water by the sector ... not enough to revolutionize physics. On the other hand I note that for several years "inventors" have emerged from forgotten discoveries by attributing them shamelessly. The financing of innovative ideas is increasingly effective and supported by public authorities and companies (business angels). Should this be seen as an increase in the number of people claiming to have "invented" something that already exists ...
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I do not think that JC Dumas had funding ... but indeed the appropriation of past inventions is common.

We are well aware of the case with water doping ...
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ARMAND
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## DUMAS system

I hope he did not get any money (public at least) since there is nothing innovative in his pumping of the DAVEY system. Regarding the PANTONE engine, it should be remembered that Paul PANTONE never claimed to have invented something, he only spoke of rediscovery (of a system - French- which dates from the 19th century!)))
In the same vein, you are currently looking for funding (280000 € !!!) for a French "invention" from the same barrel: the LLW9 (see google) ...
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I was not thinking of Pantone, but of companies trading in water doping kits: no reference ever to pantone or to Mr Gillier (1st farmer to have tested water doping) even less Mr David ...

I have always remained impartial vis-à-vis these companies, some of which were making a little squabble with regard to the authorship of the system ... While, I believe, it is said that unity is strength ...

End of the parenthesis!
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moinsdewatt
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Christophe wrote:I do not think that JC Dumas had funding ... but indeed the appropriation of past inventions is common.

...

Even more common is the proclamation of stupid (like this) pseudo-invention.

And a certain tropism of this forum to put them forward is noted.

It is to wonder why.
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izentrop
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Hello,
I understood that we were not on futura sciences, but what do you mean by tropism? The figurative meaning is not clear on the dictionary
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