Replace boiler fuel by motor car

[Did67]

Regulatory aspect: either you put diesel in it, you are in order, but you pay a lot of taxes (the TIPP) to heat yourself and produce electricity; either you run on domestic fuel, like a boiler (for a Diesel) and you will have, with respect to the tax authorities, to "denature" it as a car ...

So we return to the fixed group mentioned by chatelot. There, it will be legit.

And more, more losses in transmissions ... Motor - generator (motor 3 000 towers (or 1 500 hair cell) give a current 50 Hz live tree).

Like many "good ideas" on paper, it hardly stands up to some realities ... In my opinion.

After it is not forbidden to do a little anything for fun ... It just does not hopefully be much imitated.

[rubbish]

Hello,

why selfless life returns to a Japanese page? pirate?

yves

Bin probably because it has been hacked ... probably more Chinese than the Japanese ...
I deleted his signature so ...

To answer the initial idea, has already been experienced: https://www.econologie.com/micro-cogener ... -vegetale/ based on the widespread PSA diesel engine XUD!

Oh signature, I wondered what it was that hsitoire ... thank you for having removed the link.

Thank you for the link. I looked but found the results of the experiment. Shame.

[rubbish]

With a generator of 2kW I think we can charge an electric car in a reasonable time, or even that the power is sufficient. And then an old diesel engine ax is reliable, there are parts and it's cheap.

Christophe tell whether this is a principle éconologue ... Already economically sucks and the planet, I do not talk about you.

I do not understand the end. I do not see how to keep the warmth of his car to heat rather than let go on the road sucks economically and for the planet.

[rubbish]

Regulatory aspect: either you put diesel in it, you are in order, but you pay a lot of taxes (the TIPP) to heat yourself and produce electricity; either you run on domestic fuel, like a boiler (for a Diesel) and you will have, with respect to the tax authorities, to "denature" it as a car ...

So we return to the fixed group mentioned by chatelot. There, it will be legit.

And more, more losses in transmissions ... Motor - generator (motor 3 000 towers (or 1 500 hair cell) give a current 50 Hz live tree).

Like many "good ideas" on paper, it hardly stands up to some realities ... In my opinion.

After it is not forbidden to do a little anything for fun ... It just does not hopefully be much imitated.

From the time that the idea exists, there must be a serious study on the subject with real measures. The idea of ​​my original question was not to do anything, just to know if anyone in this forum had already heard of something similar with seriously measured results, which would say: it's profitable or it's not profitable (knowing that apart from the idea of ​​profitability there is a certain autonomy).

[Did67]

The calculation ladle is quickly made:

- 1 liters of diesel = 10 1,30 euros kWh =

- The fuel 1 10 kWh = = 0,60 euros as at the moment

The yields of a good boiler and of your car used as you think it must be close (because you still have losses with your car: radiation from the engine and other hot parts, heat "lost" around the engine and in the transmissions ...).

[chatelot16]

a car out for boiler use, there is the heat from the cooling water circuit that is usable ... a good half of the heat out by the ESC and will be lost if there are no the heat exchanger on the ESC ... and the other half is lost through ventilation in the engine compartiement good ... it's 3 half ... but it's like the third 4 ish ... everything depand tialle the third or half

a car used in a fixed to a problem, a small power efficiency is bad, a great power is not good enough reffroidie if not the wind speed ... a car is not a tractor agricultural done to its rated power without speed

[izentrop]

the optimal efficiency of an engine is about 35%, which means that 65% of the fuel after power is lost as heat: 35% at exhaust gas and 30% via the system cooling. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syst%C3%A ... on_interne

a car out for boiler use, there is the heat from the cooling water circuit that is usable ... a good half of the heat out by the ESC and will be lost if there are no the heat exchanger on the ESC ...

rubbish said at the beginning provide a coil, but it remains a big part that comes with gas

a car used in a fixed to a problem, a small power efficiency is bad, a great power is not good enough reffroidie if not the wind speed ...

With electronic injection, performance is optimized at all speeds it seems.
And if the cooling circuit is connected to the central heating, it is possible to cool the engine with a good regulation. The radiator of the vehicle must be removed in this case.

For optimum operation of the engine, the water temperature in the cooling system should remain at about 80 °. If the heating water circulates at a constant speed, the only way to regulate the temperature in the housing will be to vary the engine speed and to be stopped when the temperature exceeds the setpoint.
It will then go through a battery system - UPS electricity housing as I had advocated.

The maximum heat recovery also go through the complete thermal insulation of the engine and its exhaust and also heat recovery from the exhaust gas without harming the functioning of the catalytic converter.

Remain still noise

[chatelot16]

good thermal insulation to avoid losing heat is also soundproofing

but on a car engine there is a lot of room overheats if it were isolated, eg pipe ESC and even worse if there is a turbo

to recover all the heat you need a pipe ESC has cooled water

With electronic injection, performance is optimized at all speeds it seems.

optimize means doing the maximum possible, but there is no miracle, when one turns a motor 50kW 2kW to the maximum possible is lousy

it is easier to equip heat recovery system an engine mounted fixed definitely

a recovery of car engine seems cheaper than a small group electrogene, but what to put around the car engine will be larger and therefore more expensive

[Liliane14]

Hello,
The idea is original, but quite feasible. But I wonder about the issue of CO2 that this will create. Personally, I try to reduce my car journeys to contribute to the preservation of the environment in my own way. I prefer to use the sun for heating, I find it more environmentally friendly. Your find could however give some ideas.
Hello

[lilian07]

The easiest way in this situation is to take a soundproof generator and optimized for operation with power adapted to the use and diverting the flow of exhaust (1 / 3 max loss recovered) in an AIR exchanger / UAE and the cooling system in a WATER / WATER exchanger (2 / 3 max loss recovered). We can thus recover a lot of losses to reorient towards heating and DHW. There will be power surplus it will reinjected into a resistance management should be not bad.